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If refs didn't rig SB 50 Cam might have had a shot if his career pretty much stayed the same. But since he was derailed by injury, I don't see it happening.

53 spots is tough to fit a single use player in, especially when you can just sub in an extra OL or TE to perform thise specific FB functions. You have to be an offense that REALLY uses a lead blocker a lot to justify someone like that, even if they play special teams.

Matty Ice won’t get in either. Another great player who was responsible for Atlanta’s best seasons, but just isn’t quite hall worthy.

Take Darnold and DJ Moore and All those draft picks and All that cap and draft capital dumped into the offense… Or Bryce?

Manning and Warner are the only QBs to get in who played post 2000. With Brees, Brady, Ben R. Who won superpower in that same time frame its just not likely IMO

They both seem to me like guys that will get passed over until there are no better options left. Good but not great and no SB victories is what I see. Cam's rushing adds to his case largely but then his personality washes that IMO(not for me personally but it's common outside of Carolina fanbase, so many peole hated Cam and with him working in the media now it sure feels like S Smith all over again).

Cam didn’t last long enough. He won’t make it. Great player. The best QB in franchise history. 2011-2018 was a good time.

I was about to say that we are helping him any by using our top picks to prop up Bryce, but didn't he want DJ Johnson?

I couldn't watch all of it. SO frustrating seeing the same crap over and over.

Once it was tied up 17 all and we punted, I knew what the outcome would be. The betting line was +2.5 vs -2.5 and the Saints ended up winning by three. I started immediately thinking of the hands to the face, the horseshite alignment call on the kickoff return. The three obvious first downs where catches were overturned or the ball was spotted a yard short. That's why I was so mad at Dave for turning down the 50-52yd FG to go up 10. I was texting my friends that we need to get points and get out of here with a win because keeping it close gives the officials a lot of leeway!

It's amazing how much they have improved and yet how bad they still are. I personally never liked this scheme so I would be happy to watch it leave with Evero. I'm fine on thr 3-4, don't think the roster is closer to 4-3 either. Worst case Evero stays next year, best case he goes and does a 3 year meh build out somewhere else.

I recall that breakdown showing how the Bills ran the same exact run play like 9 times for an 11 yard average or something like that and we made zero adjustments.

I'm trying to get the random draw for Australia and whoever us plays match 3 but I think tickets to a lot of games are going to drop dramatically as world cup gets closer. Us games won't but a lot of the random ones will

@cranky Augmenting your offensive analysis Saints figured out panthers D Sad Just sad The panthers need a new DC. Many takeaways but here is the 2 biggest. One nickel routes, the coverage of the nickel back on offensive slot receiver tells offense that the out routes will be wide open. Ie. Get nickel back to sit and the other 2 DBs rarely challenge and are yards away leaving wr wide open The same concept on screen plays Two. continued positional issues in a defense that is run over and over

I think if you look at Cam Newton’s rushing totals, there is an argument he should be in the HOF. I wrote a post many years ago comparing his TD total to those of great RBs of yesteryear’s past. Unfortunately I cannot find that post, and I don’t recall the specifics, but the takeaway was that players above a certain total rushing TD were all in the HOF. And those players were all RBs that I was comparing Cam to. At the time, Cam may not quite have been there yet, but if you projected forward, he was on pace to easily clear the hurdle. I have no idea if he ended up doing that since his career was cut short. That being said, even if he did make it to whatever that threshold was, I think he was too polarizing a player, with too short a peak, for voters to put him in the HOF.

And we had both of the qbs we are worried about facing during that season Should have resigned Darnold even if determined to draft one high

This is something I've never understood with most teams. The Ravens, 49ers, etc. for years used a FB, and did it well. I know there aren't many Kyle Juszcyks out there, but... When you have a tiny little QB and want to run the ball? I think a FB is worth a roster spot. Or, line up Tremble or Evans at FB. Or Derrick Brown for that matter. Let a massive human being use momentum to get a foot.

Neither are HOF

He gets the blame because his role as the QB is to make plays, help the team score more points and elevate players around him. He does none of that. Just because he didn’t massively mess up doesn’t mean he wasn’t a reason for the loss. The bar some of you have for Bryce is incredibly low.

Yeah I was crying about this earlier in the year when we got to 6 wins. Equal number to Wilks. We are still a QB away.

Hey y'all, a topic that has been on my mind has always been the parallels between two of the best quarterbacks in the history of the NFC South and ultimately their place in history and how they are viewed moving forward through the rest of NFL history. These two quarterbacks as you might have guessed are their respective franchises greatest signal callers, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan. Cam Newton (144 Games Started): 269 TDs (1.8 per contest), 123 INTs, Super Bowl Appearance, OROTY, MVP Matt Ryan (234 Games Starter): 394 TDs (1.6 per contest), 183 INTs, Super Bowl Appearance, OROTY, MVP Obviously on first glance, these are very similar players with identical top accomplishments. Let's zoom in a little bit on their surrounding talent. C Cam Newton top offensive producers: Greg Olsen (TE) (9 Seasons) (3 Pro Bowls) Steve Smith Sr. (WR) (3 Seasons) (1 Pro Bowl) Matt Ryan top offensive producers: Julio Jones (WR) (10 Seasons) (7 Pro Bowls) Roddy White (WR) (8 Seasons) (4 Pro Bowls) Tony Gonzalez (TE) (5 Seasons) (4 Pro Bowls) Wow, quite the difference here. Through Cam's career his top option was Greg Olsen, who was one of the best tight ends of his generation and a real difference maker in an offense reliant on their quarterback making plays outside of structure. Newton post Steve Smith Sr was saddled with a revolving door of Chicken McNobodies at the receiver position and the offense had to be funneled through the tight end and running attack as Jericho Cotchery, Corey Brown, Jason Avant, Kelvin Benjamin, etc was not getting the job done. Ryan on the other hand was consistently surrounded with top level offensive weapons, including one of the best receivers and tight ends in the history of the game, thanks in part to an aggressive general manager who wanted to ensure they could maximize the arm talent of their franchise quarterback. How about protection? Cam Newton top offensive lineman: Jordan Gross (3 Seasons) (1 Pro Bowl) Ryan Kalil (8 Seasons) (2 Pro Bowls) Andrew Norwell (4 Seasons) Trai Turner (6 Seasons) (5 Pro Bowls) Matt Ryan top offensive lineman: Jake Matthews (8 Seasons) (1 Pro Bowl) Alex Mack (5 Seasons) (3 Pro Bowls) Andy Levitre (3 Seasons) Todd McLure (5 Seasons) While Matt Ryan certainly had more consistency and high level talent on his offensive line, one could argue they had similar protection through the bulk of their career. Though one has to acknowledge some of the absolute dog water lineman that were trot out to protect Newton at his tackle spots post Jordan Gross retirement. Byron Bell, Mike Remmers, Matt Kalil, Chris Clark, Amini Silatolu, Nate Chandler, etc were all a collective pile of garbage save for two seasons from Remmers and a few splashes of brilliance from Michael Oher, Daryl Williams, and early career Taylor Moton. Defense should be fairly simple. Cam Newton defense average rank: 17th/32 Matt Ryan defense average rank: 18th/32 Honestly I was a bit surprised by this, I had thought Cam consistently had the better defenses, but when you look at the average it's shockingly close. While Newton did have the higher peaks of defense, Atlanta placed higher more consistently and only really faltered towards the end of Ryan's career. Both these players had on and off again defenses to rely on. So what does all this mean? 1. I am bored at work 2. Cam Newton has the better body of work given the talent around him While I am not sure either is necessarily a lock to get a gold jacket, it's undeniable that Newton carried his franchise on his back for the better part of his career and changed how quarterbacks are viewed as a whole. Newton became the blueprint for a new breed of signal caller, and Ryan is the standard that is set for pocket quarterbacks in the modern league. Both players deserve their kudos for what they did for their franchises and how they morphed their team's identity, but Newton I think was clearly the better of the NFC South quarterbacks, especially if he had remained as healthy as Ryan did.

100% agree, trading him would be the best possible scenario. It allows for a clean start at QB and you get something back.

Rule 8, Section 3, Articles 1-4 leave a lot of room for discretion and subjectivity. For instance, the player has to maintain control through the ground but the rule also says this is Note 1: Movement of the ball does not automatically result in loss of control. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

NDAs

Hope he does well, but I rather doubt he will.