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I loved Churchill he was a piece of work. Some great quotes out there. I have seen that there is scandalous stuff about him but I was never interested enough to pursue the details.

Not sure myself and I have bought every Madden to come out in the last 20 or so years.. I'm sure he was in the game when he was playing ball most of his career but after that I dunno if it was a licensing issue or what.. he became scarce.. that said the Panthers don't get many legend/ hall of fame QBs if you play mut. I wanna say he's the only one.. you don't get Jake or Collins or whoever. You do get Bryce but they always give him like the weakest arm in the game so he's almost unplayable. Cam on the other hand comes with top end speed at the position.. probably the strongest arm at the time of release, most strength at the position and a rocket arm.. he's a offense changer.

Yeah saw that yesterday when I turned the game on and immediately started thinking wait...when is the last time cam has been in the game??

Legette by verified numbers is faster, and also not 5'8, and I like Horn too. XL - 4.39 JHJ - 4.4 Both combine numbers, we've had speed...we just added some more. XL was hurt, Jimmy was DNPCD. Jameson Williams Bryces deep threat in college, is arguably faster than both but didn't test due to his ACL injury. The issue at the NFL level is you don't face Alcorn States secondary with WRs running free.

I have a feeling that this thread is going to go in the same direction as PFF threads.

But the players are happy...

Everyone had Cam in 2015/2016. It was a pain in the ass to deal with.

Little light hearted topic.. For whatever reason Cam Newton doesn't appear in Madden ultimate team every year for whatever reason like most legends. I personally believe it's due to them robbing him of appearing on the cover of the video game series during his peak years winning NFL rookie of the year and the MVP super bowl run. Needless to say I'm a huge Competitive Madden ultimate team player spending hours of days crunching numbers and churning roster management. When this was announced it was a lightening rod in the Madden community. Competitive players know Newton is a game changer.. Your talking fastest quarterback in the game and highest throwing power in the game when he drops. That a long with. Unheard of ability at quarterback like freight train the ability to run over linebacker and corners and I was stoked. I m ashamed to say how much money threw at the game to try to pull newton and failed But it's a big deal seeing as every pro Madden player most certainly has to have him on their roster and the card art is pretty sweet.

A few different ways this can be taken depending on how you view things: Negative: This coaching staff is so inept that players are having to practically beg them to put them in situations that we as fans have been screaming for. How could David Tepper and Bryce Young do this to us? Positive: The coaches are listening to the players who are trusting the coaches! Neutral: Collaboration can lead to good things, so hopefully this starts the upward trend we've been waiting for.

I've been trying to tell y'all since preseason that Brycen Tremayne is the missing piece. XL, TMac, Coker, and Tremayne all dumpstering DBs when the team runs out of 10 personnel will be hilarious.

It should tell you just how bad this situation is for a QB This guy wouldn’t be on any other teams active roster and he’s been our WR2 Then we have Renfrow who looks like ass. As Horn gets more run and Coker comes back Renfrow won’t see the field. Renfrow was cut for good reason before the season only to be thrusted in the starting lineup one week later

Yea I agree, they are continuing to play bums like Nick Scott who was by far the worst player on the field every snap last season and again this season and they have talent players saying “I need more opportunities”, what is going on

Winston Churchill was once thought to have said, “You can always count on America to do the right thing. After all other options have been exhausted.” This is our approach to football on Mint St.

Just a whole different vibe with those guys. A lot more confidence and presence. There was a time Ron Rivera fielded a defense where running for 100 yards was impossible

Neither one will win a SB. Better to watch football 100% but Sam folds under pressure and Baker should at least make a secent playoff run. Do both IMO. Most of the guys coming out need a year anyways. Go do that and have somecompletion along the way. Best case, you can trade one for more than you drafted one of them for. Win-win.

Turnover Fred

Listen to player input? Obviously yes. Being a player led team? No thanks. It needs to be ours not your's. That's the difference between player led and player involved.

So when are these players gonna step up and suggest replacing #9? Maybe that's the only way to get it done.

First thing I though of with Brown is he is coming back from major injury and maybe they were trying to pace him a little. a guy new to the team asking for a play, and I guess they put it in for him. I am not super concerned.

I don't think the Chargers will let Lance leave. You're realistically going to have to trade for one of the better backups in the league - or spunk your first overall on a massive gamble / pay a terrible 30+ year old to start.

And he's missed a couple of walk-in TDs to Renfrow. He missed a walk-in TD to Tremble this week and a walk-in TD to T-Mac last week.

I don’t have a problem with this. Coaches should listen to their players to an extent. No one was bashing Wilks because Gilmore told him he needed to go erase Pitts when that’s all Atlanta really had. I mean, they don’t need to listen to every player all the time. But when your RB is in a grove our your best defenders speaks….its best to not ignore them

Imagine if back in 2010 some folks were trying to fight others online over whether Jimmy Clausen was a starting QB. That's where we're at