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Nah man. Bryce is what he's shown to be. Inconsistent. Once that's conquered, then he'll graduate to good.

I listened. He framed it in the contwxt of hall of fame type conversations and having to stop people (saying "whoa") from going too far in praising a player. But at no point did Person suggest the Panthers should extend Bryce. He only pointed out that extension talks would be the next step in the natural progression, but even conditioned that on Bryce continuing to perform well.

I don't think he can because we have a ready made backup option. DL Coach Todd Wash was on staff with Canales back in Seattle. He's got 30 years of coaching experience including five as defensive coordinator in Jacksonville. He could also have Morgan get in touch with some of his old colleagues (Leslie Frazier among them). And of course there's likely Pete Carroll...

I never said anything about Jonathan Mingo bud. You keep bringing his name up for some reason. But real quick, how's that Derrick Brown dismissal in the aforementioned timeframe working out for ya?

I believe I saw that - that is the one that has them throwing normal velocity and then all out fastball style that I saw and did a great job illustrating the loss of accuracy that comes with max effort.

Fair enough. I also prefer to call a player what they are. But, I'm sure your faith in Jonathan Mingo will be rewarded in the XFL.

I'm not going to continue to derail this man's DB appreciation thread. I'll keep hoping our players get better and you just keep dismissing them before they even play half of their first contract. I just prefer to wait a tad longer than one, one and half seasons before declaring people complete busts.

Understand, you were one of those guys. Thanks for confirming. But, by all means, continue to be wrong about "WR's just needing more time" despite literally the past 10+ years of draft data indicating otherwise.

Wow, you really were mad about that weren't you? I just said you may be wrong. You instantly resorted to name calling and just down right nastiness. Wow, and I thought you were one of the more sensible posters here. See, I was wrong there wasn't I? I just needed to wait until we had the right difference in point of view for you to turn into a total schmuck and give a schmuck response.

wondering if i am the only one who feels this way but this 7 and 6 record panther team has me less excited than any other time i can remember the panthers having a halfway decent record. normally i have hope and expect them to win and instead this year its just wierd. maybe i just need to somehow convincr myself byoung is actually good

The difference is that I am not a coward that will conveniently "forget" or deny all the times I was wrong like people like yourself. Oddly, I was very right about TMac, Funchess, TMJ and Mingo. Let me guess, you thought those last three "just needed more time." If fact, were you one of the lightspeed idiots that said we would regret trading Mingo to the Cowboys? I seem to recall you were.

Boy, you really have a hard on for this guy don't you? I was merely pointing out where the negativity and bust talk is at this point in Panthers' fandom. It is pointed at XL right now. You were wrong about DB, and you may be wrong here. But I guess you wouldn't be Shonuff if you didn't do with the confidence of a three year old wearing a Batman t-shirt.

Nevermind, one of the bloggers was reporting it. I did a quick search/copy/paste. Sorry

Austin Corbett named NFL Walter Payton Man of the Year club winner

Makes my eyes red just thinking about it

Yikes, that is not a good draft for us. I would go Francis Mauigoa OT Miami in that scenario, but I would much prefer a LB or Edge considering we don't need Moton's replacement until '27.

It's crazy they'll throw you in jail for grass because I think I'd be in jail without it.

He's a free agent (in coach terms) after the season.

yeah....based on your response, you didn't listen to the video shared. I know that, because you just made a bunch of assumptions that the clip is taking positions it didn't and views what Person wrote incorrectly. Which it doesn't. If you watched the clip, he makes sure there is no confusion about what Joe is actually saying in his article but it's still a response to Person's article and explains why he/others people become forced into hater positions. Still worth a listen.

Draft defense, TE in FA.

Our TEs are pretty damn mid IMO. We need LBs badly though.

One-year wonder that has feasted against bad teams/defenses and disappeared versus quality opponents. Lots of YAC on TE screens. Has a few of highlight reel plays, nothing that has me feeling the need to bang the table for him. Fairly athletic and has soft hands. Better than anything we have now, but I wouldn't take him any higher than mid-round of the first. I would say the top Edge, ILB or safety before him.