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Easy money would be on Dalton starting vs the Cowboys. that home and home combo going to bench Bryce Lose to the Phins and there is zero shot Tepper lets them roll out Bryce on national TV vs Dallas. Talk of the broadcast would be the booing fans. Thats impacted Tepper in prior years when fans sour and the home schedule is what it is

We don't draft "Dawgs". The whole fuging huddle would have taken this guy over Wallace. We suck because we suck at talent evaluation

"But PFF told us bryce was one of the best deep throwers in the league, hes not the problem......"

I can understand that argument when we have the lead or the game is close, not when we are down by multiple touchdowns like the AZ and NE games... Let Bryce air it and if he throws a pick 6, that's more ammunition for why you need your QB. Calling these pussy draw plays and punting the ball back to the other team to then let them score again is why he is a failure of a coach.

Oh it can get worse alright. As hard as that is to believe it certainly can be much worse.

It would have been more accurate if you left out Dalton's drive. Also, I doubt Bryce could have done anything on that final drive, he was rattled.

That particular observation is fair, acceptable, I can agree with that. Let’s be fair to both the goose and the gander. I didn’t see the game but I have seen Andy and I have seen (too much of) Bryce. The eye test tells me they are not close to the same in non garbage time and Andy is the far superior passer even in his NFL old age. Night and day. He whips narrow ass all day and twice on Sunday.

You already hear it. “Bryce just doesn’t have weapons around him”

When he's out of the league the narrative will be that the Panthers failed him

It’s obvious the coaching staff have no faith in Bryce. Whenever they try downfield he either overthrows or underthrows wide open (or catchable) WRs. Only thing he can do consistently is dink and dunk balls down the field for 5-7 yard gains. You cannot sustain that and expect to be a playoff team. I seriously think the team is just handicapped by the limitations of Bryce. We cannot open the playbook because he can’t handle it.

No, we leave Bryce out there to look like crap the rest of the year to secure a top 5 pick. In fact, I would literally just start practice squad offensive linemen so he can take a beating the rest of the year for being a terrible fuging QB

Hooker needs another shot. Bryce has had several shots and is still shooting blanks.

This right here. I don't care how bad Bryce is - when the team is unprepared every week, taking multiple delay of games because they don't know the playcall, not knowing how to run a 2 minute offense, and calling HB dive plays on 3rd and long, you should fire that coach. Now go watch what Liam Coen has done with the Jags and you can see a light and day difference between a good rookie-ish coach and a bad rookie-ish coach

Seems like adding more fuel to a dumpster fire. I would rather see someone else personally. The Panthers can't handle PR well currently and that's a bad mix with Sanders. Then again let it burn I guess.

So bench him for someone who can.

When Bryce scored three TD's against the Cardinals, all you haters would say is it was because the Cardinals let up. It was garbage time. Yet when Dalton comes in, it isn't. Not sure thats a fair comparison. Secondly, I was simply responding to your statement that the offense wasn't doing enough to keep the Defense off the field. I just pointed out you were wrong.

The solution is easy. Trade Pittsburgh 2 firsts for Tomlin

Obviously but that has nothing to do with my response.

At least we could laugh at whoever took them

I turned those guys off for good early last year after feeling really irritated with them pretty much since they have been riding Bryce’ jock and being overly shitty to texters and callers who disagreed with them. Have nothing good to say about them especially Mac.

Except score. Those stats also includes Dalton's drive where he went straight down the field and scored. Oddly enough, with the same banged up OL and same thin WR corps that people are using as an excuse for Bryce's struggles. Dalton got 39% of Young's passing yards in one drive.

I can only recall one that I would deem a throw away. The air mailed one to Renfrow to the sideline. But it's hard to say because Bryce can't throw his direction at all. But I'd still give him that one as a throwaway. That's it.

The Backshot Crew would be appropriate

The only place to hurt him is his wallet, but unfortunately, with this being such a transplant city, I'm not sure we are capable of doing that. I think we are stuck with him. Tickets will always sell, and the NFL operates on a shared revenue model anyway. So even boycotting merch is not going to impact him at all. People would have to stop going to concerts and soccer for it to matter at all. And the soccer team is actually good. All that said, his net worth is so high, there is literally nothing we could do that would impact him financially. It would have to be ego/reputation based. Like wearing bags on our heads. Not sure he would even care about that though. If we could get enough panther fans in the stadium and get organized in embarrassing the guy, that would be the most impactful, but I just don't see that happening when the visiting team gets at least 40% of our tickets on any given sunday. And the owner has far more money than the 80K people in the stadium, even if you include the players. He is one of the wealthiest people on earth. were not hurting him really. We are basically stuck hoping that he becomes self aware. Someone above estimated that his net worth was 25% Panthers. I'm not sure that's close. I think the Panthers are something around 10% of his net worth. Edit: I don't mean to turn this conversation into something it's not, but the chances that he sells the team are so low, I actually think it would take some sort of political overthrow, or change in the structure of our entire economy and government for him to get rid of this thing willingly. And I'm not sure I'd call that willingly. Only way forward is to try to change the guy, either by showing how much the org means to people in this region, or by shame.

Shadeur is a lightning rod that was unable to secure a backup role at Cleveland. Why should we roll the dice on him vs someone like Hooker who's already on the roster? Who cares about media rep?