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7-10 Canales and Bryce get another year

There is no fuging banner. It’s about improvement and I expect improvement this year, but this team is far away from being an upper echelon like the fuging Eagles, which everyone wants to have to be right here right now.

What was the record at the midway part of the season?

I think they just play different rolls. Run formations is tremble passing downs is JT. Running a two TE set can be helpful too and it’s not like Tommy is terrible at running routes. I think we’re just better with them both

Obviously you weren't around for the Jimmy Clausen offseason.

They were on Hard Knocks in Campbells second year lol. Literally a whole tv series on their offseason before they went 9-8 after going 3-13 in his first season as hc.

17-0 OR OR 0-17

If the best reasoning we can come up with revolves around doing well in practice that's not a good sign. But hang the banner I guess?

I predict this place to take wild swings with every win and loss.

It will come down to how much the defense has improved. Early results say none. The offense is still a mystery and is dependent on Young and the young group of receivers to make a huge jump in production. The run game is in trouble if preseason is any indicator. Special teams isn't very special and coaching is questionable. I'd say 6 wins is the ceiling until they prove something other than they've shown so far.

Zero signs of life is a stretch there was a lot of energy early and we won the entire first half with what was likely the guys in the middle of the roster and very little starters. Our back-up QB is a problem and we still need to find something LBs. but overall tonight was the first game I saw life. After the 3rd quarter those are the last guys up on both rosters

6 wins is what I'd expect best case. Some decent consistency from offense finally paying off, but I suspect that not much will help overcome a rather lackluster defense with middling depth. Evero fired midseason resultingly.

Let me put it this way. Right now we are tied for the first pick of the draft.

After going 0-3 and Dave Canalas showing zero signs of life, is this the worst preseason in Carolina Panthers history? I legit can’t think of one that has shown less life and no hope than this one.

Ok thats making poo up because no one paid attention to the lions during that time. And if you want to go down that rabbit hole, the Houston beat reporter who whose to report the panthers said the panthers did well against Houston in practice.

I was actually a bit encouraged by the game tonight. I can see the plan, we'll see if it's a good one. 9-8 after a 3-1 start. Miss the division and playoffs by 1.

Did you watch any clips of how they had the Lions practicing/competing at those training camps? Night and day from the fluff we've seen and heard about going on year 2

This is a marathon not a sprint. There were “Fire Dan Campbell” poo going on in year two when he was 1-6 but sometimes that’s part of a growing team. For a team that man claim “is devoid of talent” you sure do not give it time to fix.

I sadly am getting the same vibe. Crazy to not take the preseason seriously with the amount of new/young players we have this year.

I was optimistic before the preseason and the way they ended last year. After going 0-3 showing hardly any signs of life. From Dan to Canalas to the QB and defense. I have even less hope. This team just looks lost and defeated when I hear dumbass Canalas speak, it sounds like he is handing out participation trophies and pats on back to 2nd graders. I have come back to earth and have zero hope with Tepper/Dan/Bryce/evero. 4 wins. Max. Top 5 draft pick. New coach. New qb. Starting over. …or they have 10 wins.

If we get very lucky and have no injuries... 6-11 or 7-10 With bad injury luck, good chance at 3-14

Sounds about right.

Everyone knows we don't start trying until we are 0-5 to start the season...

Is it still 6.5? the division IS super bad but I’d still take that under