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I am not totally convinced he wasn’t held out this past week because it was at home. I think it is safe for him to suck on the road. Home fans getting restless is a bad look.

Yeah, take a look at it and maybe a gander at Pro Football Reference to test out some of the variables(or I can publish them here if you guys want). I just want to be VERY clear, this is less about judging an overall QB career vs. other QB's careers as it is "What is a reasonable expectation for SUCCESS for a given QB based on the round they were drafted in?" Additionally, "What are REASONABLE measures to judge QB success given the above statement?"

Not sure if we'd be slam dunk playoff bound but we'd contend for a spot. We still have serious defensive issues when we play real offenses.

i agree with this. give the panthers an average to above average qb and rhey are playoff bound. with that said the panthers will not only give byoubg the 5th but resign him long term at top ten salary bc thats how the panthers handle things lol

Nah I have heard that so many times when I've called for tech support I could get a job as one. Thats all they know.

I guess I would ask, for a QB career, why would that matter based on the variables in the OP? I would ask that you consider the OP and how you think it relates to your personal opinion of "success." Do these criteria seem reasonable? Is this a fair measure of "QB draft pick based on round drafted" success? If no, what is not fair? What can be added/improved on?

I am glad it came back again. Thank you Zod.

Yeah the Reddit sub is weird. If you have the audacity to say that Dan’s first draft wasn’t perfect or Bryce isn’t a franchise QB, you get attacked. I thinks it’s a lot of super casual fans that don’t watch much football

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If the Eagles and Chiefs play it's gonna be interesting to see how the refs handle that because they sure do carry both of them more often than not. Yesterday's Eagles game was a real doozy.

I think I have the jist of it but im going to think on it for a while and get back to you. Im thinking there has to be a cutoff in league years to separate league draft tendencies in there somewhere. Im a bit to toasted to be analyzing anything at the moment.

Well, look back at the original list. See that I have criteria for each level. But, again, I am basing this on a "any of this level" basis. That's why I am asking for "thresholds." I don't on the surface disagree with your additions but I need more input to test them. So, what is the 1st round threshold for Comp% or TD:INT? I need to be able to test it out and see if it is reasonable.

I’ve seen a lot of people say if Bryce played, this game would have gone a whole lot differently…yeah it would have been the same outcome as the Pats game. Instead of 40-9 it would have been 40-12

This could be NASA level complex. So many variables. Thought about including things like previous year’s record of the team they go to? Tiers of that? Because some years have a 4 win team picking first probably. I haven’t looked but there would variance there from draft to draft. Guys that fail initially but don’t sink and bloom later, which we have a couple of those in the league right now. Whether they sit and learn or are thrown into the fire? Like I said there are so many angle to consider. Those are just a couple of random situational factors.

Pretty much confirms what I already largely thought about reddit. Lol

Man, you must have worked for tech support before, lol! I could only imagine you said that out loud in a foreign dialect as you were typing it.

No clue

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Damn kc 3 dudes were holding on that play

He said in a thread about 6 months ago technical upgrades were coming. Then proceeded to disappear. No hope

Firstly, I would think "meets criteria" would be easier to quantify than "any above" and scale it from low to high. Day3 draft picks (UDFAs) have lower thresholds and first rounders have the highest thresholds. At that point it would be parsing out what would be a success at each draft level and then 'ticking boxes' of data.

I don't see us going QB early

He doesn't at all. He ticks the boxes above him. In fact, based on what I have so far, the later rounds have higher "success" than predicted. But, keep in mind that threshold(rounds 4-7) is 30+ games started OR 5+ year career. I don't really think that is unfair, though. If we got a 5+ year backup in the 4-7th round, wouldn't you be pumped? How about 30+ starts? Same. My thresholds could be off. Open to all debate on that.

I'm here and on the Panthers sub on Reddit and its funny how these places are on the opposite end of the spectrum in regards to Bryce. This place largely thinks Bryce doesn't have it and yesterday doesn't change if he plays. The Panthers sub largely thinks yesterday was a different game if Bryce plays and a thread doing a victory lap over Panthers playing like ass with Dalton starting is highly upvoted.

Well that didn't take long. Channeling his inner Andy.