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They may be meaningless in the sense of wins and losses but this team isn't yet at a place where that is honestly all that matters It's full of young players that need to make progress for us to compete consistently and this (multiple players in a year getting it) is evidence that's starting to happen.

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This argument takes nuance, but I see both sides of it. Bryce's good games, he's one of the best in the league, without a question. Lately, his really good games have been few and far between, though we are riding on a career best day last week. His bad games are not NFL quality. Hard to argue that as well. He reminds me of Cam Newton in one way. They are both such statistical anomalies that evaluating them can be extremely difficult. QB roulette is absolutely no path to success. Furthermore, we have literally watched our franchise recently let 3 QBs go that left and proved they could still do it at a high level. I definitely give Bryce this season, and probably next season. If Bryce can be the good version of Bryce more consistently it's crazy to let him walk. With the inconsistencies too, I think we could probably get a team friendly deal. If he can't bring next year's roster to the playoffs, he's not the guy, period. I do think Bryce is always going to be a guy that requires a quality offensive line due to his physical limitations. I think we can do it, but it's a factor to consider. You have to account for that money, and Damien Lewis, Robert Hunt and Taylor Moton are all between 28-31. If he's our guy for the next 10 years, it does appear he's going to have a top quality #1 receiver to get the ball to.

Yep. I get that such things are ultimately meaningless, but it's still cool to know some of our players are having sufficient success to gain recognition.

The Bucs are barely in the positive in this regard

Reads like a shitpost to me. Just so happens that the stats are real.

Pretty much... and another reason why I'm not a huge fan of stat driven stuff.

You'll find Ekwonu in the upper right quadrant.

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I don't think we need to constantly try to put Bryce above the best QBs in the league by twisting stats... I mean especially when it comes to 4th down passing where splits exist for that. But also this is just ignoring so much. 1) Panthers are 24th in the league in 3rd down efficiency, which is a bit lower than average. 2) Goff has a higher QB rating on 4th down than Bryce Young does this year, same with Mahomes. Fwiw, Bryce for his career is similar on 1st and 4th down. 4) One reason we are effective on 4th down is our rushing game, even when it isn't utilized. 5) Bryce is better when the pressure is on than when it isn't, that's for sure, but one reason we have to go for it on 4th so much is that our scoring offense is not good (28th in the NFL) so we are having to eke out every possible point.

We are all a bit biased on that opinion as well, and that's what being a fan is about.

The sign of growth is the Panthers The fortunate bounces is the Bears (+ 16 turnover differential which is unheard of )

That's pretty awesome, tbh. Good to see recognition for the success of last week. Now is the first of many major tests. I hope he and the rest of the offense continue to ball out - more fun this way, lol

All I can say is the Panthers have gone for it on 4th downs more than any other team this year - 27 times - and have converted 67% of them. The next two are the Giants and Lions @ 25 and 23 attempts converting 52% and 56% respectively. So Bryce/Panthers are converting at a higher rate than Geoff/Lions. The only teams with at least 20 attempts doing better than the Panthers are the Chiefs (76%) and Colts (81%) - I looked up the Colts and the majority of theirs comes from rushing. So basiclly Young is between Geoff and Mahommes on 4th down completion efficiency. If you are wondering if they are having to go or it because of poor third downs numbers, they are converting 37% on third downs which is about average so it really isn't that.

Thomas Davis had his first ACL tear nearly 2 decades ago. There is nothing similar about the group (I think Wattenberger did his back in the day) or the actual procedure. There have been lightyear advancement in ACL reconstruction.

Just win. my dang wife went out and bought a Purdy jersey.

Why Panthers reddit cannot really be taken seriously.

Only stats I care about are wins and losses

The flaw in this is that every athlete's body will respond differently. To think that he will bounce back and be just about like new is as incorrect to think he will never run again and a stiff breeze will send him to the ground. There is really no way to predict what the outcome will be.

You really don’t want to come out with new uniforms when you’re bad lol. I’m guessing that’s why they pulled it. You want the association with the new look to be positive. Appreciate the inside baseball

It also means we are winning close, 1-score games. On 1 hand that can be a sign of growth and a team learning to find a way to win. Negatively, it is a team getting fortunate bounces, and is typically not sustainable. See this year's Chiefs compared to last season.

All-time best looking uniforms, we won a contest once.... Ask Adam Schein...

We saw this with Foxball. Run the ball and stop the run usually creates close games. When a team has major advantages we get blown out.