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My thought exactly. We basically got a 4th for a one year rental when we aren’t a playoff contender. If we can’t overcome the loss with the young guys then we have big issues. We’ve invested 4 1sts (3 top 10), 2 2nds, DJ Moore into $150M in OL FAs into this passing game. That’s 90% of our draft and FA capital into Young. We damn well better be fine without AT or we are ways away from competing.

Pick swap and a 4th round pick. I mean that's best case scenario. Now we can move on. I'm eager to see Canales develop this young WR core.

No good deed goes unpunished. We should have let him retire. We lose out on the pick but we would have had some extra spending money in the offseason.

Meh, i have always been indifferent on the trade if it happened, we got good compensation for a 35 year old possession savvy type WR. Glad we didn't have to eat any of it. I highly doubt we will regret it. If Bryce still looks bad, AT wasn't gonna change that. Sorry. Good luck to the man in MIN, he was likely gonna sign there after this year to retire or something like that anyways.

thats the simplest answer especially since there was a rumor he was working out with JJ mccarthy and crew He had the "I didnt sign up for this" moment before and you have to think he can tell a difference between a good team and bad team all things considered. Just think its shitty after we gave him a hefty raise

Person (so take it with a grain of salt) claimed AT was already being phased out of the offense based on camp.

Dan what the fug man. this is garbage

Our third year QB should be doing that now. Sure there will be growing pains but how are the young guys supposed to get better if their dad keeps doing all the work for them. Cam had no issues lining up the offense or with protections by his third year, it’s time to let Bryce leave the nest and see what he’s got in regards to commanding the offense.

They are really, really high on Horn Jr. They spent a draft pick on him to be a returner/slot wr.

Something changed in between when he signed the deal for this year and the present. I don't think it's a huge leap of faith to say he's not particularly excited about this season for the Panthers.

That move is the kinda thing that makes FAs avoid your team, and our reputation already isn’t great.

You are not wrong. But neither am I.

He lined up the offense a lot and helped call out protections based on looking at tape.

Maybe him and his wife were homesick and he realized he wanted to finish his career back there? I agree it’s odd considering the contract he got here, I just don’t know what else it could be

Coker for sure. I see him sliding into AT's role. I didn't see much out of Horn and would've rather kept Renfrow.

Agreed.

Would be very surprised if they Don't bring Hunter back

Means it could go up or down in value for depending on the conditions of the trade.

It's just a question to try and get you to think about value to yourself (A) vs value to the marketplace (B). And if A > B then you don't sell.

If Thielen is that crucial to Bryce's "development" Bryce doesn't have any developing to do. He just is what he is. We've got an extremely talented receiving corps even without Thielen. No more excuses. Time for Bryce to perform.

Exactly. This is still talented core that Bryce can thrive with. Its no excuses.

If Thielen is the link to Bryce Young’s success like some of y’all seem to think then we are fuged. But in reality Jalen Coker put up a 7 for 7 for 62 in the last game of the season and showed he can be a volume target. We also just opened up a ton of slot snaps and for those that are unaware, yes, McMillan has played the slot and is a matchup nightmare there. Then you factor in that we got compensation for a guy who is at the end of his career, has an injury history, and and may not even be in the league next year… I fail to see where the issue is even if the fourth round pick is in 2027.

Conditional 7th could mean they don’t get it at all, right?

Renfrow might just be coming back on a vet minimum...

Thielen is not who we want anyways to mentor the guys if he is gonna piss and moan about being here. fug him at this point