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AT trade should be completed soon, today at some point most likely.

While basically not practicing. These things usually continue progressing as long as the guy keeps playing. Do you really think grappling with other jumbo super athletes for 60 minutes once a week is improving chronic knee issues? Let's just be realistic here. He will get some improvement with his knees once he stops playing and sheds 75 pounds. As long as he keeps playing and carrying 300+ pounds they're gonna keep getting worse. That's just the reality of life for a biological creature.

Well wallow in your misery together, I guess. I think Dan has made some nice moves since taking over and we seem headed in the right direction. Rebuilt OL/WR rooms and now DL seems on the uptick. I’ll just let y’all go on pretending the extension $ would magically net us a Penei Sewell-caliber RT this offseason.

Dude is an elite level RT. He was 3rd in 3rd down pressure rate allowed and top 10 in pretty much every single other stat including advanced ones among RT's for last season.

Vikings seem like a perfect fit honestly. I'm sure he wouldn't mind going back. He's spent his whole life there.

You know how air chair football managers are around here. They all know better. Just no one in the NFL has picked up on their incredible acumen yet.

Can't wait to hear the return is a 7th round pick swap or something worthless like that...

A considerable turn for the worst? Seriously? How do you figure? He played very well and only missed one game due to his knee. And he likely would have played that one had we still been in the playoff hunt. I'm sorry, but you're reaching here.

58.2m over the next three years with 54.3m of it being guaranteed. so my bad it's actually 93.2% that's guaranteed.

huh? If Thielen stays here this year, I'd bet he takes less than 10% of his snaps lined up outside, and I'm being very generous with that 10% T-Mac, XL, Coker, Renfrow, and Horn I think are all more likely to be lined up outside on any given play than Thielen would be at this point in his career. This is all about Renfrow as he's the Thielen replacement if we trade him. If we're not confident about Renfrow's health, this is a non starter for the team to even discuss.

Based on our past actions the answer isn't comforting.

getting rid of the most reliable wr young has is a total panther move

Historically speaking, they sure seem less capable than many DIII programs. I really don't understand when Panthers fans pretend like this has been a competent organization. We've lost more games than any other team since Tepper bought this franchise. That's just the reality of the situation.

15 of 10!!! I will be there in Jacksonville, so that may have something to do with it! Soooo Pumped!!

I'm cautiously optimistic but I'm hedged against last year's week 1 repeat. If its miserable at least I'll probably win something.

You do know that most NFL players have to manage chronic wear-and-tear-related injuries once they get into their late 20s, right? This isn't unusual. There's a difference between long-term management and dealing with a major injury. Do you think they'd have paid him this much if they hadn't had the knee thoroughly examined and were comfortable with what they found? Honestly?

Right......I know some of y'all just hate the FO but that not plausible at all. If they were really worried about his knee to that level they are not giving him 40MM guaranteed. LMAO, get real fellas.

He missed one game late in the year when it didn’t matter due to his knee(s). If you don’t think the Panthers considered his overall physical health before signing this extension, then you should probably give up following them, because you consider them less capable than many DIII programs.

I don’t think this has anything to do with Renfrow. The question is do you think XL or Coker can step up and be WR2. Renfrow and Horn are your slot guys. Maybe we keep Moore if ATis gone? That gives you some vets and Moore plays special teams right?

Ahhh much better should have done this to chuck a long time ago.

A doctor can't tell you how things are going to go with a chronic issue that's largely about pain management. Something one person can deal with another can't and it's not really about pain tolerance as much as it is just variance from one individual to the next. One person can be dealing with an issue that the images look like he should be barely getting around and he's actually doing alright. Another person can be dealing with an issue that doesn't look all that bad in images but he's practically crippled with pain. The best indicator is how things have been progressing and last year things took a considerable turn for the worst so obviously we decided to pay him. LOL

Tepper's gonna fire me if the current roster takes the field for 17 games, so now its time for a Madden trade. Hold my beer.

Looks like people in the Panthers reddit forum with inside sources say the trade is a done deal, but don't know the return yet.