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He will also throw about 24 bone headed picks

That does it for Carolina this year. Shame they may have made it past the opening weekend.

I am not stanning him for sure I have issues with him as well. But when you say that, you are still seeing that despite his obvious shortcomings, he won 8 games with Bryce Young playing QB, in his second year as coach. After taking over a 2-15 team. So there is something in there. Maybe he is a slow learner. I have been one before with certain things, but when it clicked, I had it. Just took a while. There are people like that. This will be an interesting year whatever the record ends up being. Lots of plots and sub plots.

Lol that is exactly what I expected. Or some Waterboy stuff. I started to ask if your name was Rico. not sure we can go 10mil. How about a draft beer and some wings after the game? For free,

Welp

Exactly.

That's some pretty deep personal poo shared openly. It's very rare that men actually talk about what's going on inside. A lot of that resonates very loudly and clearly.

Send us your game tape

I'm available for the low price of $10 million.

Do you think Bryce throws the best deepball in the nfl? Simple question

Well hell, looks like it worked after all.

I'm sure this won't post right since I can never seem to get youtube videos to work, but here's the link:

Anytime any NFL analyst or stat company has something positive to say about Bryce it’s some secret agenda that they are pushing according to the mouth breathers on this forum.

Bryce relied on him so much and there are young guys that need to develop and Bryce needs to learn to use them. He looked for AT all the time. Security blanket. Comfort zone. Training wheels are nice and safe. Time for the QB to progress and incorporate the new guys. I am looking for the right analogy but let’s say you always choose something and I want you to do something different. I take your safe choice away, you have to do something different.

This thread is an excellent collection of excuses.

That is likely true. They are letting him walk, so we know they rate him lower than Love. They are the people who see him every day and should know. These guys can get better with game reps as far as it goes, for the flip side. I think Willis is past the expiration date in terms of finding great value. And a flat out signing we should have a better track record than he has before paying the going rate. And we aren’t in line to be doing that right now anyway. We are in the hidden gem/reclamation zone of QB shopping, I would think. At least I am hopeful that we are.

If y’all can’t see PFF’s angle with these Bryce grades…they did the same where based on their grades last year, Geno Smith was better than Patrick Mahomes lol lemme check to see if Geno Smith is in the top 5 for this stat

I am wanting to draft off of need, if we can match need to value. Say we need OT and the guy we look at is poor value at 19. See if we can trade back. You can pick up ammo to move up in the 2nd in the process. (For that LB) If it just will not fall in your favor than you have to go with BAP over a big reach.

The age thing, I think it works in the sense that people used it with DJ Johnson and XL still being raw. That they should have it by that age, but don’t, is a red flag. Also competing against 20 year olds, they should have an advantage which could disappear against grown men. That is a valid concern. The flip side is the guys that are 24 but are ready. I see nothing to scare me off of them. Heck you get a more mentally mature player too, most likely. Maybe you get a quicker transition. No redshirt or apprentice type of year. You could probably apply the age criteria by positions. 24 years old might work better for QBs than LBs or DTs.

I've only ever considered it possible for 1, maybe 2 if pinned inside the 10, deep balls per drive. The play is just too big. A new deep ball can be completed in under 2.5 seconds. That just isn't right.

It’s out there to look up. There is a definition. It is so convoluted and broad I got frustrated before I could finish it. It just seemed wrong to me. I think the words they choose for the names of these stats are the bigger problem than the stat itself. Because there were things in that definition that I thought to myself “how is that big time?”

yes. I never paid much attention to these stats until people started using them to tell me how great Bryce is. When I have watched every snap he ever took and look at video during the week, and can objectively see how ‘great’ he is, what his throws look like, the whole thing. The stats criteria is just misleading to faulty when you look at it. That doesn’t reflect on Bryce, I can’t see how it does. It is directed at the criteria being used to evaluate him. And others. No joke, the game casts now call a 16 yard TD a deep pass - I can only surmise it is because it went 4 yards deep in the end zone making it a 20 yard throw. Who among us, all being likely lifelong football fans, grew up picturing a 16 yard TD pass as a deep ball? Anybody? It is just not a helpful stat, it is absurd. There is no stat for 30 yard throws. Nor for 40. And so on. And they are generally more demanding throws. Say your QB nailed 4 35 yard throws in a game and my QB nailed 4 20s. Should they be rated equally as deep passers off of that? Tell me my guy is has the best rate on 20-30 yard throws instead. Break it down. To call 20 yards and everything past that the same thing? Why would you do that? I mean, calling a 20 yard pass a deep ball, is like calling Bryce tall.

all I know its a throw and not a completition and lol at folks coming at posters for laughing like hell about this. I mean we all have eyes