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Who is invalidating accomplishments? What does that even mean?

His stat line wasn't impressive but he had a big impact both on and off the field.

Agree. His talent though….. and football intellect. He was a code breaker. Offenses had no surprises.

I wouldn't say they hate them. They just prefer their safeties to have size and strength, to not shy away from run defense support.

I think that just depends on how "ready" he looks in the offseason, how Dowdle works out this year and if we have the opportunity to draft another guy above him in the offseason before he recovers. The fact we took Etienne at all shows some movement towards looking beyond him.

This is why Ive always thought Bryce was a Dave and Nicole pick and been doomed to failure from the beginning. If you look at Frank and his past offense, Bryce was always the least likely to fit. Square peg in a round hole. That's not saying anything against Bryce. He was put in a bad position from the very beginning with a coach who didnt want him because his skill set didnt fit what he does as well as Stroud's did. And that was obvious because Frank didnt care once Bryce was drafted. He didnt even get an opportunity to do his job so why pretend to care. Bryce needs an offense specifically designed around him, but that wasn't going to be Frank because Dave overruled him even choosing his own QB, and now DC whose offense isn't really built around Bryce's style either. You gotta let a HC chose his QB and instead we've been trying to find a HC to fit our QB which is a much larger ask and we have a leftover hire at GM from one of the worst GMs in NFL history. This whole thing has been fugged from the beginning. And whether youre a Bryce lover or hater, the clear issue is Dave and Nicole made a franchise defining football decision without understanding football.

They signed what everyone thought was the best corner in the league it turned out he was just never thrown at because the other ten guys on the field for the raiders were fans from the stands and he was completely washed lmao

He's dope on Madden

Not if etienne keeps making an ass of himself.

I honestly am not sure we really ever see him in a Panthers uniform on the field. I suspect he will be gone from the roster as soon as next offseason.

Luke’s shorter career is the only knock. If he played like 3 more years he would have been in first tear

Boy what a poo show that was hahaha

https://x.com/themarcjohnnfl/status/1970928512111608130?s=46 Lmao pff

That's why paper teams never win. It's not about the names, it's about the play. Remember the Eagles dream team like 15 years ago?

yep, if you look at the 20+ throws of Bryce Young w/ Canales in 2024-2025 (and remove the anomaly week 18 Atlanta game). It's horrific downfield play. Pretty sure it works out to 5 for 24 when going 20+ yards w/ 3 INTs. Is it all on him? No, you can find fault elsewhere in that in either Dave or some WRs. But to be THAT bad going downfield, you got to acknowledge Young is a big part of why it doesn't work. A big chunk of that is his heavy bad throw % and ball placement (Bryce makes life hard). WRs pretty consistently having to go for a lot of contested balls that are contested in the manner they are because of ball placement often. my stance has been consistent since the day we drafted him. Pick a direction. I don't care which. You either need a BY centric scheme and HC....or you need a new QB. We hired Frank and now Canales. And it's too late to finally attempt something year 4 that should of been attempted day 1. I was hard on the Frank hire if BY was the pick. Same for Canales if BY was going to be the guy. It's really raging at the Panthers org not really BY. But BY is the square peg and Carolina has a round hole O ever since drafting him. So he becomes the easiest fix given they have never wanted to do what they should of always done.

I like how we went from the WR room being a strength to a weakness in 4 weeks. fugin A

I'd still rather keep Tremayne at spot

I think everyone from last week plays Sunday and honestly we are better without this current version of XL

But the huddle will tell you we fleeced them for a convoluted pick swap lmao. Trash decision

I don't think this will be answered for a few games. I think Dallas will start the reality check. NE and Miami are more toss up games, who knows what those look like at this point.

Pretty sure Luke gets in this year

Its crazy because as a Panthers fan since Luke retired has been the only time in franchise history that we don't have an elite MLB

DNP Wednesday with a hamstring injury. This next game could be a disaster especially if Christian Gonzalez is back for the Pats. May have to switch back to Ladd McConkey for my fantasy lineup and mark this one as a L.

I mean Neither guy is doing too bad, Baker finally became what the Browns made him a #1 pick for, and Darnold is doing well with a second strait team.... Both threw 30+ TDs last year and both have a passer rating over 100 so far this year.