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He's had it up to here ...

Im curious what the reaction would be if there was another benching. You had people who dont even watch football like that calling out the Panthers like lebron james for mistreating bryce. Lmao

I don’t really know how that option thing works, and was unsure if it transferred with a trade unless we did it. Obviously your scenario a better option.

Yeah lol Bryce gets compared to every other QB or player you can think of as an excuse. Drew Brees, current Sam Darnold, Tom Brady, Steph Curry...as the famous Katt Williams once said, "Mike Epps is probably doing Mike Epps, why don't you do you??" https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxxc4HxsZj7h0BMMm-_szP9t2O8ci6HmAZ When is Bryce Young going to be Bryce Young and play as Bryce Young, the 1st overall pick?? Edit: This draft description of Brees does sound like Bryce though -- "he slipped due to concerns about his relatively short stature for a professional quarterback (6'0), a perceived lack of arm strength, and a sense that he had succeeded in college in a spread offense."

someone will be available that no one anticipates right now. Geno was available last year for example

If Urban Meyer can still get a job you have to be a pretty sh*ty individual to ruin your career in football.

yea as bad as we are I really don't think we will be worse than those three. Now that being said if the NYJ come to town and beat up on us and we drop one of the Saints games who knows

What was it about this week that made so many finally turn on Bryce? For whatever reason, it seems like the Patriots game was a turning point for many.

Wouldn't it be better to trade him after year three and let someone else decide to pick up his option? Hell I would be willing to eat his rookie contract for a 4th round pick. Thats how disgusted I am with the situation.

You are supposed to be able to tell from Bryce Young? It’s like giving a chef dog food and expecting a seafood dinner.

or, and hear me out, maybe he's not in fact a QB whisperer

Depends because these guys can do substantial damage to their profession careers vs you and me just moving elsewhere in our professions. The pool of NFL employees is pretty small vs other industries. Doesn't make sense to me for young guys like DC even with the cash in hand philosophy being always relevant. It gets guys who are dumb and don't know better or guys who know they aren't likely to get many chances IMO. Neither being good options

It does. Had we traded Burns and Moore for 3 1sts and a 2nd when we traded CMC, we likely don’t finish as well and maybe we don’t have to give up the farm for Young or maybe we luck into Stroud dropping. See my post earlier where me just missed out on a lot of talent because we had 5 wins, not 4 wins.

I would take too many words to say that. That’s about how I read it. As to that option year, if they were going to trade him, wouldn’t it be desirable to have him controlled for 2026 and ‘27? That would be the only reason I could not go into a canniption fit over it. I hope Canales is doing his whisperer thing with Hooker because they way people are complaining he won’t get a chance to work with anyone decent.

Did you read anything in my post? My point is that sometimes (to us in particular), one additional win knocked us out of the spot where game changers were drafting. No offense, but getting Herbert over Brown and Parsons, Karlaftis and Porter Jr over Horn is franchise changing. There is a difference in picking 1st to 3rd versus 8th to 10th. As much as you want to deflect, it gets you better players and huge trade offers instead of having to trade the world for Young since you’ve got pick 9.

Yeah right now his defense is ranked worse than Evero’s.

I bet they weren't.

Safe to say electric horse is fed the fug up.

Lol....shopping at lidz. Lmaoooo

Don't you just hate when that happens?

Panthers fans in season 8 of Tepper's tenure

Its nothing we haven't said on here already. AI probably put that article together from quotes on this board over the past couple of weeks alone.

Yeah, you can't turn a 180 degree. But instead of saying "C'mon guys, you're pros!" Dave has to find a different messaging style that demonstrates urgency.

Bet these ***** were wanking all over him during the Draft process. He is who I thought he was. He was never, ever going to succeed in the NFL. I was absolutely livid when we drafted him.

I'm not good enough at Xs and Os to be honest. But I say that Dave isn't serving Bryce because we saw what happened last year after the benching. They had an entire offseason to put their heads together to create, modify, improve everything that worked last year. When things aren't working in games, they should be fixing them during the week. Again, I'm not a how football plays work kind of person. But I have to strategize, solve problems, deal with high pressure parents, kids, and overbearing administrators while delivering high quality results. No, I'm not a pro athlete, nor coach a sports team, nor am I as handsome as I want to be. But looking at this from a problem solving situation, I'm at a loss.