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I think the best way to make Bryce better is to make everyone around him better. This is why I advocate for a stud (top 5, eventually) TE. I mean, when we have been a good franchise, we have had a stud TE (Walls, Olsen) and ILB (Beason, Mills, Morgan, Luke, etc) so it is in our DNA. Expect us to address these areas this year. (An Olsen or Walls would help Bryce a lot). In terms of productivity, I think we are going to work with XL for one more season and ride the TMac / Coker momentum. Where else could we find a position to improve productivity? TE. A position that caters to Bryce's style and shortcomings, a stud TE gives him another weapon he has not had. The Panthers run a lot of 2-TE sets (I have seen 3) and they have a blocker (Tremble) who is great in the run game, a balanced TE (Evans), and Sanders is supposed to be the pass-catching TE. He had 340 yards last season and he has about 170 this year. If we are going to play around with XL for another season, it only makes up to add to Bryce's weapons in a way that does not put XL on the bench, basically ending his development. It makes sense to bring in a pass-catching dawg. The way the offense is designed, I see carrying 4, but its not ideal. Having said that, I mentioned Oregon's Sadiq in another thread, but I am starting to warm up to Vanderbilt's Stowers and, in the Olsen/Walls mold, I kinda like Endries from Texas. Of course, Stowers is probably going in round 2 and Endries in 3 or later. I still say, 5 months before the draft, that I would not be surprised if we take a TE very early.

Thats not true, thats what Brandt said about him in the off season. Then he has continued to play "meh". We simply dont know how the staff feels about him now. There are no reports that they like him or not

If you think Bryce is an "established starter" then that probably would be the place to begin

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Ride the bus train!

Once again the total embodiment of charmin soft. Lame-elo is a fuging clown

I think it's fairly clear he is not dedicated to being an NFL player. We don't have the time and luxury of being able to wait until his 5th year of the NFL for him to start to figure it out much like it took in college. He is just another in a long line of Panthers WR flops. We should all be very familiar with the symptoms of that at this point.

All you can control is the opponents in front of you. Besides, I would rather see a regular G5 participant in the playoffs than a C-Tier P4 team that conclusively proved they couldn't win when it mattered.

Derrick Brown was one player I never called or even suggested was a bust . Dude was young and hadn't even hit his stride. It takes time to learn the position. The thing I appreciated about him is that he kept improving season after season. He got paid and keeps on going like the Energizer Bunny.

How many teams coddle their QB the way Bryce has been coddled? I have never seen any other team in the NFL EVER baby a QB the way that Bryce has been. Bryce was named day 1 starter his first year. It was obvious he didnt deserve it. He wasnt ready as evidenced by the worst rookie year in NFL history. So let's move to year 2. He's named starter again with no competition in TC and is benched 2 games later. We have the ghost of a backup in Dalton who is so bad he can only beat Vegas and let's remember, the only reason he lost his starting job was a car accident, not because Bryce actually beat him out in practice. And year 3. We sign Dalton again, who already proved he couldn't be depended on to put an even remotely passable performance on the field, and bring back Jack Plummer, who was even worse than last year. It was obvious he was nothing more than a pretend body in an attempt to create an illusion of some type of attempt to find a backup. Then we start again with garbage play again and Bryce gets benched with a phantom injury, and the ghost of the ghost of Dalton breaks his thumb on the first drive and craps the field all over again. If we had actually made an attempt to find a legitimate QB2, it's possible Bryce doesn't step on the field again. Bryce is not agood QB and if we had any other mediocre QB, our record would be the same or better. Bryce is not entrenched. He's been placed, protected and sheltered from ever having to face a real QB competition in TC. Richardson and Levis both were ass and both were benched and eventually replaced. Do I expect Baker to face competition in camp? Sure. I expect Tampa to find the best QB2 they can at price that fits their cap and resources and system and get him up to speed. If he's better than Baker, and if he's better by a significant margin, that's best for the team. The ultimate goal is a Super Bowl. Bellichek was constantly getting QB2s with the GOAT as his starter. He knew the value and that was realized when Cassell led them to an 11-5 record as a backup. You and I may think differently than the people that matter but I will say it again. If you're afraid to bring in a capable backup, especially after the debacle of last year. The starting role wasn't earned, it was given, and that's loser mentality.

I would have done the same thing. LSU is a much better job than Ole Miss. Plus the enormous contract and every advantage a college team can offer in terms of recruiting and facilities and tradition etc

But the thing is, Bryce is so mediocre/bad that anyone they bring in will be competition.

The NFL will never mandate grass unless stuff like this picks up steam https://www.njlawyers.com/blog/monsanto-made-astroturf-linked-to-fatal-brain-ca

Why has this forum lost so many people? Minus 10 of us, there is no one anymore.

How many teams with established starters ever bring in competition? Do you see the Bucs telling Mayfield "you were the starter last year but this year you have to win the job again"? If the team believes Bryce can be the guy (and just about all indications right now are that they do) they're not gonna put money and resources into another quarterback. They'll direct those toward shoring up somewhere else. You don't believe Bryce should be the guy. I don't believe Bryce should be the guy. Hell, a solid percentage of this board doesn't believe Bryce should be the guy. But the only people whose opinions matter appear to think differently.

they did have natural grass for FIFA and just replaced it with turf afterwards, just going to show it can be done. even if this wasn't ideal

Why would you not let him compete? Put the best QB on the field. Period. Why must we coddle Bryce? Why should everyone else on the team have to compete for a starting job except for him? You think if the team sees another QB outperform him in TC and he's still handed the job it won't wreck the locker room? Again I say. Loser mentality.

They might beat Purdue, I'd still lay with Purdue just based on size and speed. Forget the drops. I'm basing my opinion on the fact that JMU is incredibly small and slow, and that's with another incredibly small and slow team on the field with them.

Reich gave Evero leeway to pick most of his defensive position coaches, but Wash didn't have any history with Evero. His connection to the 23 Panthers was via Dom Capers who'd worked with him in a senior assistant role when Wash was the jags Defensive Coordinator. By coincidence, Wash actually has a little more history with Dave Canales. He was Seattle's DL Coach for two of the years Canales was coaching receivers. A couple of the guys Evero brought in have since been fired. I'm still surprised Evero wasn't after last season, but after hearing that his contract end this year, I feel it's a lot more likely that he and the Panthers part ways next year. It's just a matter of whose decision it is (quite possibly mutual).

Don't be ridiculous. They'd win a few I'd those games. They dropped a poo ton of passes tonight. This game could easily be pretty lopsided. They certainly don't belong in the playoffs though.

I've tweaked a back muscle turning over in bed. (wish I was joking)

They believe Bryce is "ascending" per reports. We'll find out if they're right or not.

I don't doubt that they'll upgrade the backup spot. I'd be extremely shocked if that didn't happen. I'd be equally shocked if that player doesn't come in understanding that he won't be competing for the starting job.

People have got to stop ranking these teams based on records. James Madison is 11-1, and if you let them play the 6 worst teams in the SEC, and the 6 worst teams in the Big 10 they'd be 0-12 and the average losing margin would be by 14+ points.