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I heard one analyst say that Parsons is (or was relative to the same age) a better player than Mack. Could be recency bias, but I'd say that that's absolutely true.

Watson is a cautionary tale because he pulled that trade coming off a full year he didn’t play due to injury and then almost a whole other full season due to an 11 game suspension for being a creep. If Parsons was coming off all of that, I’d agree - we don’t do it. But Parsons has been mentioned with the likes of LT and Mack. If we could swing it, we should do it. I don’t think the cowboys would trade him in-conference, but we’ve seen wilder things happen before (McRib to WSH).

Saw a post somewhere earlier that said what the Bears gave up for Khalil Mack would be a fair comp as to what to expect it would take to get Parsons. But Parsons is actually a year younger than Mack was at that point, and also, I believe Mack was named an all-pro at two different positions that prior year, iirc… but I think Parsons is as equally versatile. we should definitely see what it would cost, at minimum.

If we had drafted Parsons, we'd be paying Parsons. You don't let young players get away just because they're playing well. That's a recipe for failure. If you don't trust your FO to be competent, then what's the point? Sometimes acquisitions about striking when the iron is hot. There are costs associated with trading, and there are opportunity costs for not trading. Mind you, that's only if there is a legitimate opportunity. The cap rises basically every year, so being scared to pay for outstanding play is probably not going to lead to the results that you want in either the short or long term, especially when a player is still young.

2 problems with this thinking First is this isn't a Horn or DB type of contract, Parsons will become the highest paid non QB in NFL history. You don't pay one player that amount of money unless you expect to be in contention, which we'd still not yet be there even with Parsons. Second is that you disagree with my thoughts based on the expectation of the FO being able to draft impact players beyond the first round. If you're making the trade expecting them to hit on our 2nd and 3rd rounders the next few years because we don't have 1st's... why not look at it as expecting them to have hit on Scourton and Princely. And as good as Parsons is, if we hit on both of those picks, while keeping our future 1st's as well as having that massive cap room difference between a Parsons contract and Scourton/Princley's over the next 4 years, then not trading for Parsons would be FAR more beneficial to our team than if we were to.

Renfrow is quite a story sure hope he bounces back to that Pro Bowl form and seems like he is fighting for it. Its all coming together. Go Panthers!!!

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Yeah, Bryce has to put that a little deeper. But XL can't allow the pick there. Gotta become the DB when you're undercut like that.

You see, I just don't subscribe to a cookie cutter type of philosophy when it comes to trades or team building. Every situation is different. Many may disagree, but I think that FOs that can't draft impact-players beyond the first round aren't really viable. Just for argument's sake, because we all know this hypothetical trade is as realistic as the moon being made of cheese, Micah is a young dawg really just beginning his prime and is arguably the most valuable pass rusher in the league. He could realistically play at a high level for at least the next five to seven years. Parsons' current trajectory is Canton. That being said, he's not some old merc that fits the mold of "one piece away," he's a core piece to any defense for the better part of the next 10 years. Pass rushers of his caliber and age don't generally become available, so, sure, he'd help an elite team, but he's also a fit for a younger team that's building. I know that you don't agree, but it's all good. I respect your rationale.

Here's my not important take on this subject. Who wouldn't want a pass rusher of his consistency? I would absolutely love to have him on this defense. Would I give up Brown in a trade for him. Nope, I would never do that. Interior linemen are way to important to be settling for whatever you can get at the position. Would I trade 2 firsts, plus fork out a big contract for him? Without knowing if Young is for sure going to be our long term, franchise guy, there is no way I'd be okay with letting go 2 firsts. As for the contract that he'd demand, I just dont get caught up with NFL contracts. They have been out of control for decades. So I really dont get upset over big contracts. It's just a fact of life in the NFL. You HAVE to pay for talent.

Fair response.

Good

Because it makes for a more interesting and interactive post. I mean, it is a football forum.

Why does he HAVE to expound?

At least he's learning.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers coach Dave Canales said Friday that starters will play in the first two preseason games, stopping just short of admitting he made a mistake last season holding them out. The plan includes playing quarterback Bryce Young, who got off to a historically bad start to the 2024 regular season that got him benched after opening 0-2. Carolina opens their preseason schedule Friday at home against Cleveland, followed by an August 15 road game at Houston and August 21 home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Canales said he will evaluate after the first two games whether starters will play in the third game. "Kind of going through it last year, we had a mix of veteran players, but [this is] predominantly a pretty young team,'' said Canales, who has at least six new starters to the defense that was the worst in the league a year ago. "I just can't pass up the opportunities. The reps in games are valuable. "[But] it goes to the night before, when guys know they're going to go out there, they've got to make a decision to play football. So it starts the night before with the prep. You start thinking about your plan, taking care of your body, making sure you get your rest.'' https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45880676/panthers-starters-play-first-2-preseason-games-says-coach

You call the Cowboys purely for information, but we don't have the assets to pull off any realistic trade. Also, even if they would consider any trade, it's more likely they want to do it with an AFC team.

Ocho Cinco I believe was talking about him putting folks in a blender at camp. (we talkin about Renfrow if you didn't click it)

That's why we have practice. All players involved will get better with more repetition. Give props to Jaycee for picking it off, though. That's why we kept him. Now do that in real games, please.

if you meant Bryce needed to place the ball higher with more air when targeting the back of end zone, then yes, I agree with you

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