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How does a discussion about Shough being rookie of the year vs TMac turn into a put down of Bryce Young? Yall really sick.

Best draft class we've had in more than a decade.

I think Rod will be around a while longer, though these last three games hurt his stock. It appears that for these games with nice leads the opponent scores and then the Canes overreact and don’t stick with their game. I think it’s a confidence issue. With Bussi in net they were spoiled by him making great plays and when he let a goal in when the other team made a push, or anytime Freddie is in net and the opponent scores they fall apart and instead of offense the Canes get defensive, overreact and make mistakes. Is there a sports psychologist in the house? Medic!!!

Both things can be true - Bryce has been clutch for the most part - making throws when they're needed. But this last game was won by the defense at the end. I love that Bryce has kept the perspective and never fell for the hype or the hate.

The difference being we've won 8 games this season - so it's not rookies contributing on a bad team, it's rookies contributing on a winning team.

There was a time….when kickers used to get the love/shine in those moments. Jon Kasay not Jake was deemed the clutch game winner the Cardiac Cats season. At one point, Adam Vinatieri was the clutch game winner while Brady was still on his path to being a GOAT. But everything is QB centric. Trevor Lawerence could move the ball zero yards and Little makes 2 70 yard kicks to close out the season….and Trevor might be talked about for an award

If you watch Princely when he's in, he has an ability to bend round the corner that Scourton severely lacks. I think he'll be a good one for us, eventually.

Baker Mayfield was literally running away from our entire Front 7 on Sunday. Baker. Mayfield.

After getting burned on Brooks can you blame them?

I think he's a 4-3 WLB. Undersized, athletic as hell and often the 'other' player on the play. He's very good in coverage, but his instincts in the run game suck.

Should be giving the K a hell of a lot of credit.

I agree here . I would give Horn more opportunities and limit Legette's routes and number of plays on the field . I would give him one more year to get it together . Give him a few screens and let him run in the open field . We invested too much in him to cut him this soon .

But when people say, Bryce Young doesn’t go downfield…..this is what they are referring to. He goes downfield less than every starter in the NFL…..minus 1. And high odds he likely made a move out of last place the last 3 weeks

Probably sign a mid tier vet. I’ve seen some mention Pierce or Wandale. Roll with TMac, Coker, vet, Horn, and see if XL can work his way back up the depth chart. Brycen would be a good one to keep if he is super cheap. XL was always a raw prospect so he needs time but he also needs to fit our timeline.

Something needs to be noted. How many more seasons of just playoffs before they move from Rod. We know it’s cup or bust. We also know this team is isn’t the finished product that we will see come playoff time due to injuries and trades. The question is, how long before enough is enough with Rod?

I’ve never spoken on GWD stat until today. My stance has remained shrouded in calculated mystery

Yeah, we don’t need to get sucked into the early 2000s Detroit Lions model of drafting

I have doubts that Bryce will ever be good enough, but at least he seems like a decent dude.

Last week Random Poster - that’s not a Bryce stat MrBDawg - how dare you hater!!! Today Bryce - yeah, that’s not a Bryce stat MrBDawg - well said!

I would guess because it wouldn’t align with the conservative management. We are taking our rare deep shots in advantageous scenarios….to big WRs. Bryce historically puts balls on dudes and often creates jump ball/contested scenarios at high rate. Ball placement remains spotty. Horn is tiny. Likely not a a very good WR yet in terms battling through contact down the sideline and having to deal with a potential contested catch vs bigger defenders. If it turns into a jump ball scenario the dude ain’t going to morph into 89.

what an absolute stud

You would have to think so right? I am genuinely afraid its not though

would be cool to enjoy the ride without the constant nitfuggingpicking

This will get better when we have a completely healthy O-line and a dynamic WR with good speed (possibly someone like a D.J. Moore).

Electro is going to throw a hissie fit.