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We won’t have any real sense of his viability until the weather is cold, at the earliest. So you have to address the near term as if he is done. With maybe a little hedging. Moton’s exit being not too far off allows that because we can apply this year’s stopgap to that position. People are saying if he is diminished he be a guard, but if his athleticism is degraded to the point that he can’t be an OT, can he really just ‘be a guard’? This is a tough one.

First off, you never make your team better by getting a player over a barrel on contract negotiations. Kills the locker room. And you don't negotiate until you know what both sides have down the road. Otherwise, someone gets screwed. And that kills the locker room and/or the cap. Stay put, wait it out and see what we've got in the month and a half before the draft. A lot can happen between now and then.

Wow

.500 basketball in March is a beautiful sight.

The bare minimum is two first rd picks for Horn. Anything else should be ignored….

I am not sure what the true offer would be from the rams but if it is 2 firsts (thats the only way I even discuss it) then hell to the yes I am doing that and not thinking twice.

It is a dumb argument I’ll give you that. Drafting a guy primarily because he can do what should be the job of your starting QB is not efficient use of your resources. If you draft a guy to develop as a QB you do it because you think you can develop him into a QB. If you want to run him in to take up Bryce’s slack then you have that option. as far as conservatives (?) not willing to gamble a later pick? Well the answer there is look at the roster prior to the 2025 draft. Holes like Swiss cheese. Every guy we took contributed and many of them significantly. You get the floor of the 21 guys who aren’t QB raised to the point you can’t immediately replace one of them with a 4th or 5th round rookie, then feel free to be a little looser with some of these later picks. We still are not there. Maybe next year.

Horn's 2026 cap hit is $24.4M, #13 would get about $4.4M in 2025, that's a savings of $20M. $20M in FA would do us a lot of good. That, plus 2 top 20 picks (working on your assumption that LA isn't keeping #13 and trading #29) would sure make the offseason interesting. I get a bit of a chubby thinking about Styles and Lomu in the 1st. I know that Styles is now projected to go top 10, but a boy can dream. I'd still want them to sweeten the pot, #93 this draft or #167 this year and next years 3rd. Horn is a really, really good corner, but his injury history will always worry me and his contract is huge! Cap hits of $22.7 in 2027 and $28.7 in 2028.

This only happens IF free agency goes our way. Even then, im not so sure. Without seeing our additions in FA, I am fully expecting S, LB, OT, IOL, or EDGE (not in any order) positions targeted with our first and second round picks. I think OT is the most realistic 1st round pick unless there is a run early and we don't get offers favorable enough to trade back. I think LB can be upgraded in FA, but we could miss out on some of the big names. I think targeting an EDGE early depends on what they think of Scourton and Princely. Not in the sense of whether or not they will upgrade the position, but in the sense of if they would rather upgrade with a vet or youth. At the end of the day, we also thought last year there was no way they go WR in the first with as many holes as they have. So I can't 100% say they won't take a TE at 19.

I think it would be cool to have someone with that skill set on the roster so Dave can work with him. Having said that he is a terrible qb and the earliest I would draft him would may be the 6th. Def 7th but no way I would go higher

Svech

The guy has been a starting QB in college for 4 years and has looked awful for all 4 of those years. At least somebody like AR was younger and more of an unknown because he started so few games, so it was a little more unclear of whether he could be developed. I think it's safe to say Green won't develop into a starting QB (and probably not even a good backup QB). With the scrambling ability the dude has (because of his athleticism), I don't think I have seen a QB look as bad as he does throwing the ball when he breaks out of the pocket. Now, if you are drafting him in hopes of making him a slot TE or a WR, then maybe I get drafting him. But no, I would rather draft a depth offensive lineman or defensive lineman, safety, or something else that serves us more of a purpose than a QB whose only purpose is scrambling and QB sneaks. It also doesn't help he does not fit our scheme at all of quick passes and pre-snap reads

LaMelo, Miller, Kon is easily the best young core in the East to build around. Key is just staying healthy.

If we move down five slots or less and pick up an additional 2nd? That would seal the deal for me. That 2nd... hard to get someone on the back end of the round or early in the second to give that one up. Still... if that miracle swap is there, take it.

Now while I agree, there's some stuff that can happen between now and the draft. We may know more about Icky's health. We may offer Njiman better than he's getting on the FA market if our coaches feel he can be a good stop gap or move laterally. There could be some trades happening. Me, I'm hoping Icky can get better, although that's a tall order. Still, you are right and it should be LT, S and ILB. Those are the chessboard pieces we realistically need right now.

Thank you.. I don't see why this is such a outrageous idea.. it's not like your wasting a round 1-3 pick on the guy.

And conservatives like you is why we didn't have a guy to do that last year because your afraid to invest a pick 4-7 which isn't even guaranteed to make the roster on long term talent. Those picks are lottery picks where your suppose to swing on talent. Nobody is expecting a 5th rounder to start maybe not even contribute day 1. But in this specific case he would help day 1 this is really a dumb argument to have.

Bobby Okereke released, doesn’t fit Harbaugh’s D model but is still quality. Want him over any others honestly. Pair him with Jacob Rodriguez, that would be a strong interior LB crew

None of those players offer Greens arm talent or 4.3 speed. Let's be honest CMC ran a 4.48. god doesn't make many 6'6 230 humans that run a 4.3 and have a rocket arm. His floor is QB sneaks and gadget plays. The legs but him roster time to develop. You telling me I can get that not using a premium pick from runs 4-7 I say why the hell not? Your saying you don't draft a player like that because you can find that somewhere else I'm telling you there isn't a single player in the NFL right now that is that big and that fast period. Name some at any position that is 6'6 and runs a 4.3?

Bingo

Twist that a little and you get to investing so much in a QB that you are afraid to even call one with, explains it.

Yeah me too. And if I am the Rams I am a little wary.

The fact that people want us to use a draft pick on a guy solely for the purpose of having them QB sneak on 4th and 1 explains why our team has been void of talent via the draft the past decade... You can literally find just about any QB off the streets to do that job.

Jarvis

If you are running man defense, probably. If you are running zone, not as definitive you need a safety or nickel on him