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Once an MVP always an MVP and I was talking about how Shula would do dumb stuff with Cam.

Well for starters he was not the GM during the 2017 NFL Draft. You want me to fill in the rest of the obvious omissions?

Former MVP the other guy is reigning MVP. And it was Joe Brady

I get the motivation but they are going to make money anyways at this point. I can't tell another fan to hate football because this team is still really bad, not dirrectly at least. I get being mad tho but Im not going to get into it with anyone trying to find a better football experience since it's been non-existent around here for coming up on a decade soon enough. It's going to be a painful marathon again so there will be an endless supply of things to poo on as it creeps along. I don't hate the NFL. Tepper is a clown and I hope he eats poo so hard this year. Whatever it takes to make him want to change or force his hand.

Yeah, but they weren’t. That’s why I say the legend is growing. Hunter’s weren’t drops. AT wasn’t pulling a nighcrawler and morphing throwing a defender on the underthrow…..and getting smashed with a helmet on the ball before the ball could even be secured. Like I said 1 out of 4 balls to AT weren’t a catch. And hands touched those balls. Some he didn’t touch. Some were poo throws. Into coverage. And broken up. this is low key being a Bryce apologist with this narrative and I can have no part in that

That’s a negative, they won that game 35–10 https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401671783/bills-ravens

You'll get no argument out of me regarding your disappointment in Legette. But there's no need to be dishonest with one another about Thielen. And no matter whay he said about Bryce publicly on his way out he made it crystal clear he wanted to play with a rookie QB in McCarthy very badly.

Why are you running Jackson there on 3rd and 24? Felt like a Shula call. Why get your MVP QB hit on what is essentially a throwaway play setting up a FG attempt?

Our biggest draft bust, no doubt. Not sure where he'd rank in NFL history.

He is literally good at nothing. Fun fact, per NFL Next Gen Stats he had the third highest catch percentage for a WR among qualifying players in 2024 and was 5th in 2023. You are starting to sound like a JT O'Sullivan sock account, brother. Questioning AT's hands is a pretty odd hill to die on.

2 firsts, 2 seconds, plus DJ Moore (top 15 WR in the NFL) for a small and slight framed QB who can't process the line, has happy feet, and at best an adequate arm... That's way worse than the Gilbert trade and it's not even close. It's at least the worst Panthers trade by far.

Not sure how you can argue Gilbert being worse? It was bad but this one takes the top spot.

I got pooed for hating the trade up in the first place and then again when I thought Stroud should have been the pick.

Trading the best WR in many years for a bust QB will go down as one of the biggest blunders ever sadly.

Bosa with the FF loss of 15

If he got hands on the ball it was caught. It was that simple with him.

Oops killed the drive my bad guys

I didn’t cherry pick anything. I listed the first round picks. Can you find a better record in the 21st century?

Hurney was horrendous. He was great in the first round that's it. Any other round and FA was largely trash. But we were still immensely more competitive with him more consistently than the jabronis we've had in the front office the last few years. That's because when he hit in the first he hit on cornerstone talent. We can't do that. Not even close.

I said that in the lead up to the draft. Said no way you can take him top 5-10. He had happy feet issues at Alabama, he had to play off schedule. Small frame, small height, adequate arm strength, couldn't process at the line well. Just never got how he was considered QB 1 in that draft. I think I had him 4th or 5th.

Walker, Wilson, and Watson were 10x worse. It's not even the worst panther trade, Id say Gilbert has that crown.

Random but something I find interesting: the outlook on Bryce on X/Twitter is a lot more positive than here. A lot of talk about still believing in him and this game wasn’t his fault etc. I wonder why that on here it is more negative and X it’s more positive? Anyway, didn’t mean to derail the thread.

Mark Schlereth or whatever was going off on him on the broadcast for that horrible display of effort. It really encapsulates our team in 1 play. I feel bad for dudes like DB, Chuba, Horn who actually go hard...just asking to get hurt playing with these bums

Bryce is really a dumbass when you hear him talk. Uuhhhhh uhhhhh ummmm