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This is a very good point. Like sure it's easy to not throw many picks when you don't or can't challenge a defense and just let the running game do most of the work.

Excellent young defensive building blocks. Brown is our best DT since Jenkins and Horn our best CB since Norman. Very happy with how these two turned out. We got exactly what we were hoping for.

If you've paid attention I've said already multiple times that he isn't a starting NFL QB. I said this before the draft, I had him rated third at QB. I had him rated behind AR, who I said would need a year or two on the bench before starting.

That's what an All-Pro DT looks like.

And Joe Milton would be an MVP candidate this year, not the Cowboys backup QB. The argument is pretty simple, does Bryce have a strong enough arm to be a successful starting QB in this league. And the answer is even simpler... No. Anything else doesn't matter, he's just flat out proven that he can't make the minimum required throws at a high enough level to be even an average starting QB, let alone anything better than that.

If arm strength decided who the best QB was JaMarcus Russell would have been a hall of famer

And poo... now that I think about it, you're trying to say he has "average or slightly below average arm strength" but saying that in comparison to the what, 90ish QB's currently on a roster or practice squad right now? So your argument FOR our QB is that he has about the 45-60ish strongest arm in the NFL and you think that's a winning argument in support of Bryce? And actually, you're really comparing him to draft profiles, which by your definition would then also include all the guys who can't make rosters or even practice squads. So really, you're saying because he has an average to below average arm strength of all the players who tried to make it in the NFL in recent memory, he has a strong enough arm to be a successful starting QB in this league. again, I have to say it, JFC

took him in draft kings. saw him once.

bro literally will do anything but throw for 200 yards in a game. 199.5 jfc

All-pros? Brown to me absolutely, Horn has more competition. We can have nice things again?

He's 10th in the league in pass attempts. How we're running has absolutely zero bearing on him having the 10th most pass attempts in the league but being literally last in the NFL in passing yards (among QB's who have started all 7 weeks). If this was Delhomme era Panthers, where we were also one of the lowest ranked teams in passes attempted, you'd have a legitimate case there, but that's the furthest thing from the case here.

If there were handfuls of backup QB's who were good enough to be starters in this league, then you'd have an argument on your hands. But when there are current starting QB's who aren't even good enough to actually be starting QB's in this league, you can't then compare a supposed to be franchise QB to those back-ups. QB is the most unique position in all of sports, by a very very wide margin. Trying to compare your starting QB to the backups as a selling point for said starting QB is such a crazy notion that it hurts my brain to think how anyone could honestly think that's the case. It basically would be like comparing a MLB player to the "average professional baseball player" and looking at all minor leaguers in that as well. Saying Bryce has an "average arm" when he's literally likely ranked 32nd out of the 32 starting QB's in arm strength is ceratinly some hill to die on.

I don’t understand why people were ever down on him. His rookie year was promising and his 2nd year wasn’t so bad that he should have been written off. Sophomore slumps happen all the time.

Analyzing game play makes this a negative cesspool? That's an odd take

Cade didn't have his best game yesterday, but having to worry about Quinnen Williams being right in front of you will do that to most centers. Cade has been very good with his run blocking and ok with his pass blocking. I think he is much better than a replacement level player. Guy would start for more teams than not

Making lineman question their manhood weekly.....I love it

We're running the ball extremely well recently. Game flow doesn't need 300+ plus. This board has really gone downhill into such a negative cesspool, its sad.

And Bryce's 2nd and 3rd best passing yardage marks this year is 199 and 198 yards. Which in itself, is such a sad statistic. Take away his 328 yard game and he's averaging 160 yards per game this season. And for those who hate when you exclude specific games/things from stats, if you remove his high and low mark this season, he's still only averaging 168 yards per game. That's your #1 overall pick in his 3rd season ladies and gentleman. How is there actually people arguing that he can still be a good starting QB in this league, it's freaking nuts.

I'm literally telling you that is in fact how it works. You don't compare players to starters when only like 10% of drafted players develop into long term starters. You compare them to every rostered player at their position. Their skills, traits, athleticism is based off of that. Do they have above average athleticism for their position, well their position includes backups and starters.

I thought he played pretty well the first 2 weeks. The injury definitely set him back. I think Evans should be our #1 tight end and we should be using Sanders split out wide in passing situations

Even with all of this, he's not a long term starting QB. Which I said prior to the draft. You've got to scheme his throws over the middle open by creating lanes for him to see the field. So his best throws are to the boundary outside the numbers. That's where he excels largely. For his size to throw over the middle, he's got to trust the play and the receiver to be where they are supposed to be. That leaves a large part of the field he's not going to see or naturally want to throw the ball to without the line breaking down or being schemed to have an open lane to see the middle of the field.

No, just flat out, no. I’m not even sure that’s accurate for any position in the NFL when you’re grading out 1st round prospects. But even more so when you’re evaluating a QB. If you think any team or evaluator is comparing QB’s you’re drafting to be a starter, to backups and 3rd stringers, then I honestly don’t even know how to respond to that. I’ve heard lots of crazy arguments on message boards, but that would take the cake, by a very wide margin. You’re literally comparing the skill sets of the most important position in all of the sporting world, to guys who can go a decade long career and never throw a meaningful pass in a game.

Depends on if the benching is permanent.

his longest air throw was probably the sideline catch to Chark against green bay if I'm remembering right, because of how triangles works.

Rumor is he didn't score in the elite category for his S2 hocus pocus test