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Add nick Scott to the list of why the f are they starting

So? As tepper once said there's no salary cap for coaches. And it's not my money. And if it makes us better....

If this season goes up in flames like it looks like it is, at least the cupboard isn't bare. We have some pieces on offense with our o line, t Mac and young te. We have some pieces on d with d brown, horn and maybe princely and scrouton. And more importantly Morgan hasnt traded any future picks. Yet. It was worse 2 years ago but the next hc and gm will be walking into a far better situation provided they don't do anything stupid and trade future picks

Agreed. What is there to be positive about except I am positive we suck. Again

It's time to start the Bryce Perkins experiment

I wish I could get paid millions to absolutely suck at my job with tons of people fluffing me every off season

At least they gave us enough info for some of us to waste the next 16 weeks doing something else

No one wanted/wants/will want a rod as our qb. I would not root for him ever

I've been more excited for the following season since 2018

Tbf we lost 2 wr in a couple days. So next men up?

Just be glad isn't isn't baseball. At least football has a salary cap

Dayum, so it went from a late round pick swap to basically a 4th. Not too bad. First mingo for a 4th and now this. His drafting skills are TBD but he at least so far has some negotiating skills

One would hope the guy we drafted 8th can fill that role

I'm gunna play devils advocate and say he did the opposite He could've retired and we would've gotten nothing. Instead he came back, got us picks, went home and made the vikings pay him 10 million. Hes playing 4d chutes and ladders

A lot of things about this can be true at the same time. Was he our most reliable wr? Yes But he was also injured a chunk of last year, we had to buy him out of retirement, he had 1 foot out the door and the other in minny, we aren't going to the superbowl this year, we only had him for this year, we need to see how our young wr are and we need to see who Bryce really is. Thielen was at most a 3 or 4. Getting the return we did while not eating salary was solid. Thielen put up with this circus for years. We did him right and I wish him thr best in minny

If by he you mean evero, yes you are correct

I've seen moore around the NFL for years. He offers nothing dozens of other players can do with 0 upside. Renfrow IMHO offered slightly more with wayyy more upside and reasons to root for him and the team. That being said we are getting upset about a 5th or 6th wr. That also being said he'll probably sign with someone else, ball out and we can all say told you so

Can we trade nick Scott for him

A lot of people imo are over valuing thielen. A 3rd round pick for a 35 year old wr 3/4 with 1 year on his contract and an injury history? Getting a 4th for him would be a coup. We got a pretty good young qb for less ( that we wasted)

At least the biggest position of need isn't e. All of the above anymore

I dunno. I like thielen as a person and a player and he's been our most reliable option for 2 years. Buuuuuuuut.... We have drafted xl, tmac and horn. We lucked into Coker. We have a couple udfa that could help us We aren't going anywhere this year. Thielen is probably gone after this year. It's a surprisingly difficult choice but I say trade him for what you can get. Let's see what the young pups can do and maybe Renfrow makes the loss easier. If Bryce is dependent on a guy that won't even be here next year then he isn't him. Thielen was at most a 3, maybe a 4 depending on Coker. Let's send him to greener pastures. We still have tmac, Coker, xl, horn, probably moore and renfrow, maybe one of udfa, and 3 young te. Let's keep the youth movement going and see who we have

I'm gunna probably get pooed for this but to play devils advocate yes the team has been terrible for years. Yes tepper has made a bunch of mistakes. But he is not the worst major sports team owner by a Longshot. For that look at the Sacramento a's or Colorado rockies owners. They are terrible. He made a major mistake with rhule. He tried to use his money and got an "all star " staff with Reich. That was a terrible mistake. He has switched to a fresh faced coach with some limited experience- he's TBD But imo tepper wants to win badly. That's why now he's blowing all his money on udfa and that has at least begun to pay dividends. He still needs to put grass over turf and build a better practice facility but he is trying to win. And from what little I can see he has cut back on his meddling ( he's no Jerry Jones or al davis) he's spending his money, and he wants to win. There are worse things an owner can be. Is he perfect? No way. But he's learning and trying and imo getting better

Fify

Tbf we just let 2 possible franchise qbs go ( darnold and baker) and passed over 1 in the draft ( stroud) bc of feelings. Feelings matter a lot for this team