SmokinwithWilly

1. TL 2. Sewell 3. Slater 4. Wilson 5. Chase 6. Pitts 7. Fields 8. Trade back - since we're talking big board, I'm adding trade back as my option at 8 if these players are gone. Wouldn't want to move further back than 15 at most. 9. Waddle 10. Lance - merely based on positional value 11. Surtain/Horn - these 2 are neck and neck IMO 12 Parsons - based on talent alone. I dont see LB holding the value in this years draft

Also the sound of his gut feeling kicking in

You can't mold around a QB that won't/can't take the necessary risks. 4th and 8 passing for 2 yards isn't going to cut it. Saying that he wanted to check out of a play where he missed a wide open receiver for a touchdown because he didn't like it is a problem. Teddy likes to play it safe and in this game you have to be willing to take risks to win. Teddy has shown he isn't that guy.

You can't mold around a QB that won't/can't take the necessary risks. 4th and 8 passing for 2 yards isn't going to cut it. Saying that he wanted to check out of a play where he missed a wide open receiver for a touchdown because he didn't like it is a problem. Teddy likes to play it safe and in this game you have to be willing to take risks to win. Teddy has shown he isn't that guy.

It brings up a more important question though, rather than just does Teddy suck. Should we cosider keeping T2G for a backup. The hope with any backup is that they have the ability to win a game if your starter gets hurt. These stats show that he likely isnt going to be able to come in in the 2nd half and lead the team to a win. Granted most everyone already knows this, but when considering the backup role, how much value does he even have there?

We've had Hurney twice. Isn't that enough sorrow for any NFL fan?

Can we put our Little back in the draft and have this one instead. Leave the number the same, no one will notice.

No, but that was one of the funniest non SCP posts I have ever read.

He protected a lot of young QBs. But that goes to show you that coaching makes one hell of a difference to and I wouldn't trust Gase to be head coach of a turtle racing league. Darnold wasn't a fit in Gase's offense, just like Cam wouldn't fit into a traditional passing offense. You have to build around these guys' strengths and Gase tried to hammer a square peg into a round hole. For fugs sake he had one of the best receiving backs in the league and tried to use him as a power back between the tackles. The dude had no idea what he was doing. I'm not saying Darnold is going to be a prime time NFL QB. He may, he may not. But I don't think it's fair to look at what happened on the Jets and determine his ceiling. You can only climb so high when you have an anchor dragging you down. Fields might be there at 8 and if he is, I totally understand if they picked him. Drop TB, Grier, Walker, dump all of them. Fields can back up Darnold and if he gets hurt or plays like poo, away we go.

It's a deep class, but if you have Sewell or Slater there and they are your highest rated players, you make that move. I think Fitts and Co genuinely believe that they got a talent equal to any of the QBs after the top 2. Taking emotion out of it, getting that kind of value for a 2nd round pick is insane. Now build a wall in front of him and let Brady scheme his ass off. Personally I want to see 2 of our first 3 picks on the oline. Tackle in the 1st, DB in 2nd and a G/C in 3.

I've already registered on the liver transplant waiting list

It's almost like Alice's temper tantrums and PanthersUnited quality posting joined into one.

Franchise tackles are as rare as franchise QB. If you have the opportunity, you take it. Pitts could be great, but TE is easier to get later rounds. Kelce - 3rd Waller - 6th Kittle -5th Andrews - 3rd Top 4 TEs in football. None of them in the 1st. ‘Gronkowski and Ertz, both 2nd. Hockenson was 8th in the first and is borderline top 10. Effective TEs can be found later than a top 10 pick.

But if they believe they can get a starting tackle at 37 then they could take the best wideout and still protect their franchise QB.

Maybe he'll give us Washington's 1st for our 2nd to trade up for the another Little.

Listen to the offers coming in to trade up for Lance.

Sewell Pitts Slater Trade down to 15 if a Jones is on the board and snag Darrisaw, and possibly a 2022 1st and this years 2nd from the Pats. In the 2nd, grab Grant and meinerz.

Anyone who watched 30 seconds of Little's combine knew he wasnt worth a 2nd, much less trading up to get. Hurney reached on a raw prospect AGAIN, and he blew it AGAIN and about 90% of this message board knew it when it happened. Saying Sewell and Little are comparable is like saying a Ferrari and a Gremlin are the equal just because they're painted red.

True, but with so many needy QB teams, and us having just acquired Darnold, we could potentially be more likely to move by offering say 9 and their 2nd or 3rd, than just letting it ride and potentially drafting their guy. They may consider it a 20% chance we take lance because we did attend vs a 0% if we didn't attend. A little bit of uncertainty can possibly net you something. It's just part of playing the game.

Ron stuck with Haskins despite his performance then cut him the next day. If you believe in a guy you don't start him then cut him, especially when he was the previous year's first round pick. If he had benched him in the 1st, we lose that game. I think Ron knew what he was doing. They weren't going far in the playoffs and losing to us, then Philly would have made it much easier for them to acquire the QB they needed. Moving up from 19 is a lot harder than from 6.

We didnt win that game, Ron lost it. I'm still convinced he was trying to tank to get a better QB. He was just out sucked by Pederson.

If nothing else maintaining the appearance we are still interested is important to give 8 more value than it has. Denver wouldn't trade up one spot if Lance was still on the board and we havent acted interested. As important as it is to get your guy, it's also important to maintain the illusion you're interested in theirs.

3-0 or 4-0 in the playoffs would be perfectly acceptable to me.