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He started 66 career games in an era where there weren't guys playing at 230+ lbs and running 4.4 40s... I like Bryce Young, incredible prospect and the size doesn't even scare me off that much. If Stroud weren't also a great prospect with ideal size I'd be all in on Young 1st overall. But with Stroud in play, his size is enough of a concern that I prefer Stroud. And it's not just height, his frame is really really small. Wilson, Murray, Brees are all much bulkier than Young. And honestly even if Young were 6'2 220 there could still be an argument for Stroud. Stroud is a great player and I bet if he didn't play at Ohio State but at a different college that is known for creating successful NFL QBs he'd be rated higher. The dude's tape is ridiculous.

I think it was a McAdoo pick. Same thing though and agree with the sentiment either way.

Do you mean the optics or do you believe this? Look I'm excited about Reich and the staff he's put together but I wouldn't be so sure that he/they won't fail Stroud or whatever QB we get. Stroud could do everything right and be a good player but not succeed here. It happens, and Reich and his staff haven't earned the benefit of the doubt on that yet.

Consider bringing back Hartsfield not the others. That's a pretty high tender though, he should be closer to vet min

Completely agree. I would accept Young but I want Stroud much more. AR or Levis and I'll be as pissed as I've ever been at a draft pick.

puke. he would be a stretch at 9, good player with upside but lot of concerns. Stroud/Young are the only options at 1. If we do anything other than 1 of them then my faith in this team, of which I have very very little as it is, will be completely gone.

The relationship between a coach and a player is significantly different than the relationship between a player and another player, especially if that other player is closer to Stroud/Young's 21 than McCown's 43. There is something to be said for a QB having another experienced veteran QB on the team who he can lean on/ask questions and have be more of a good cop whereas a coach needs to hold the player accountable and be more of a bad cop. That said, I don't think having a mentor at QB is a big deal. Having veteran leadership in general is a big deal but it doesn't have to come from the QB position, can be any position on the offense.

Josh is literally twice as old as Stroud/Young... He's QB coach, NOT a mentor or peer. And I disagree with the notion that a mentor at backup QB is necessary, if it works out great but plenty of successful QBs have come into the league without a mentor. I'd rather focus on finding a legit solid backup who can win a game or two if needed. Brissett makes a lot of sense. Also Minshew but he may be looking for somewhere that he has a chance to start which he won't get here.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/13/nfl-top-100-2023-free-agents-lamar-jackson-derek-carr-geno-smith-top-the-list/#comments Somehow PFT doesn't have Boze ranked in their top 100 free agents... I'm not a big fan of PFT but often they're pretty decent on this type of stuff. I wonder if Boze doesn't have much of a market around the league and we're letting him learn that in the tampering period trying to sign him to a cheaper deal once he realizes it?

Lol good fug them lame ass team that has lucked into 2 SBs and sucked the rest of their existence

I'm cool with any legit WR/TE prospect, I think that's pretty much our only option early in the 2nd unless some surprise faller is sitting there. Our OL will set up Stroud/Young well but we do need some weapons. Draft a guy in early in the 2nd and sign a guy or two in FA.

We aren’t trading the pick.

Also reminds me of people 2 years ago thinking the Niners traded up for fuging Mac Jones, lol. Lance sucks too but at least he had potential as a top 3 pick. CJ or Bryce is guaranteed, probably CJ.

Happy to see, he’s a solid player, one of the few from the nippleshorts era

Stroud gonna be the first rookie QB to win a Super Bowl and will be the NFC's equivalent of Mahomes and we'll put DJ and his helmet in our Hall of Honor

The last game I went to was @ the Bucs in 2018. Before that was going to 2-3 games per year despite not living in the area. Tepper and Rhule were such a disaster and my interest in the team definitely dwindled. This offseason so far is potentially saving it. Haven't bought a jersey since McCaffrey in 2018 either. Stroud/Young will be my next one. Almost got a Chinn jersey but didn't wind up pulling the trigger.

Ok but DJ in Chicago may not be as good as DJ in Carolina...

Get 1 or 2 of Brandon Cooks, D Hopkins, Odell, Hardman. And draft one in the 2nd round. Or could draft a tight end or go after Schultz. Having a top tier tight end is every bit as important for a young QB as a WR.

Pretty much my exact viewpoint as well. We finally have something to be truly excited about — a legit HC and top rookie QB.

yeah he got absolutely screwed by his preseason injury. If not for that he'd have had a ton of meaningful snaps in the 2nd half of the season and a real chance to prove himself. He's probably lost that because of the injury now with the new staff likely to draft a QB high this year. I like him and hope even if we let him go he can stick around in the league for a while somewhere at least as a backup.

I like him as a prospect just not enough to be comfortable trading up to the top 3 for him if that's what it takes. Honestly don't even love the value at 8, I think he should be more of a teens/early 20s guy. But that being said if we do get him I'll still be incredibly excited. Just not as much as if we got Stroud (ideally) or Young.

We could get screwed if Falcons or some other team trades up to 2 though

Not necessarily. Multiple teams have had a lot of success after trading a lot to move up for a QB who wound up busting. 49ers, Eagles, Rams all very recent and applicable examples. If Reich is the real deal we’ll figure out QB sooner or later even if it doesn’t turn out to be whoever we get in this draft if we trade up.

I like Minshew, I don't think he's the answer nor will he come cheap for a backup but I'd be really happy to sign him and draft a QB. Sam did ok down the stretch last year and is a good dude but let's just end that experiment now

Lol this is ridiculous. Teams don’t want to pay multiple first round picks for a QB who can’t stay healthy and has made it clear he wants a fully guaranteed massive contract. Sounds pretty normal to me