Khyber53

2001 was a special kind of malaise.

I was amazed at how little motion I saw pre-snap yesterday. More than to change up the defense, you motion to get the defense to show their coverage. Darnold could have certainly used that information.

Offense may well be as bad as it has been since 2001.

You know, you're right! They're all Gettleman guys. Wow, that makes even more of a humbling point.

Saying we've had a lot of our draftees out there, more than any year before, isn't much of a compliment considering the quality of work being done. And Christensen's biggest impact on the field so far is he got a sack. On his own QB.

Poorly, too. I'm in no way, and have in no way, suggested they should be here. The suggestion is, that as bad as they were, we're in no better and probably worse shape than when they were here. The old guys were bad at their job. The new guys are terrible at it.

Last year, Hurney was retained just for the sake of the draft. And I'm not asking for sensational players, just a couple of decent ones, maybe one good one.

Yeah, we still apparently jumped too, too soon.

Hurney's front office was terrible and he left the team in shambles, I certainly wouldn't think he deserves the job as a GM anywhere. He ended up with the Redskins, but maybe they do deserve him due to karma. Saying that, just because we've had a change doesn't mean we have someone competent in the job. He may actually be less competent based on draft picks, evaluation of free agents and handing out contracts apparently based upon grades at Temple. There's got to be better folks out there available than Fitterer and Rhule and Brady and Co.

Chinn was a Hurney pick. Haynes actually is a Hurney/Rivera guy who has been on the team for four seasons. Gilmore was a Pro Bowl guy that came from Belichick's bunch and Michael Jordan was brought into the league by the rebuilding Bengals three years ago and was scapegoated for Burrough's injury. Not sure I'm gonna tout those as wins for Rhule/Fitterer.

Because it's really not. Horn may be excellent, may not ever recover. Marshall is, well, a Temple player from LSU at best. Christensen is apparently a toothless T. Rex. Tremble might be a good TE eventually, maybe a fair one right now. Daviyon Nixon gets an incomplete due to injury but seemed nothing too special so far. Chuba has flashes of excellence but has hands of stone. Keith Taylor had an outstanding game against Minnesota but has otherwise been quiet. Deonte Brown went to IR because of weight apparently, never having played a meaningful snap. Shi Smith proved to be another training camp favorite that has done nothing in limited opportunities. Thomas Fletcher sent to IR under the crushing injury of JJ Jansen wanting to stay an extra season. Phil Hoskins has been seen on the back of milk cartons. Wow. After trading for soooo many picks and passing on soooo many bonafide players, you'd think we'd have hit pay dirt a couple of times just by random chance. Fitt just shat the bed with Rhule's apparent guidance.

Look at the guys actually doing something out there. With the exception of Reddick, Luvu, Gonzalez and Gilmore, every player that is performing at grade level and above was a Hurney draft, and many were coached by Rivera. Jaycee Horn gets an Incomplete grade because of injury (he looked good here before the injury, but they all did at that time). Whew. Hurney/Rivera era players are what are holding this team together right now. That's how bad things are and that's no praise for Hurney or Rivera, just pointing out that those guys got fired for their performance here.

Christensen, who we were assured had been graded very highly, played a couple of snaps on special teams yesterday. That's how bad we apparently are at assessing offensive line talent. From the coach's room to the front office to the scouting department, Tepper has managed to put together one of the worst organizations in the NFL. We would be the Detroit Lions or the NY Jets if we didn't have some talent left over from the Rivera/Hurney drafts. I remember people laughing and pooing when I said if we didn't break five games this year that Rhule would be gone, contract or not. It not only doesn't sound unreasonable at this point, it sounds like a fuging good idea.

Dude came from the Seahawks, an organization that hit magic a while back and has been falling apart ever since. He was big in their scouting program and they can't scout. Apparently, for all of Tepper's success in the world, he's still a sucker who'll buy anything if the pitch is good (or he convinces himself he wants something).

Exactly. Well said and so very true.

There's enough suck to go around to both Darnold and the line.

Will be? Will be? Is.

I'm with you. I thought it was a reasonable gamble when it was made. I got a little uneasy when they took his fifth year. I felt like it was a good move for the first, second and third game. Then reality hit the ground around here like a 100 lb anvil dropped from a blimp. Bad o-line, bad play calling and Sam's history all collided. And it has been a train wreck ever since. At this point you just grab the two QBs we have on the practice squad and throw them out there. They'll probably get killed, but who knows. I do know that Darnold isn't savable, but he'll be able to go out with millions of dollars earned and owed to him. PJ Walker got his shot and shat the bed. Those two couldn't get a jersey on another team without buying it from the NFL.com store.

Amazing how folks are coming out and defending Brady and Fitterer. I guess there were people working to defend the command crew of the Titanic after the fact, too. The boat still sank, the tragedy still happened. It's a Confederacy of Dunces up there.

Just because you somehow made a billion dollars doesn't mean you can't create a total clusterfeck. Tepper has proven it. Thank God he wasn't one of those billionaires with space programs. Debris would be raining down over the entire Carolinas day in and day out.

Brady will probably be made to fall on his sword, perhaps the o-line coach Pat Meyer. It could be Rhule as well with Snow stepping in as head coach. But if this is the end, they need to show Fitt the door, too. If he evaluates coaches as well as he evaluates deals and players, we're doomed long term.

If we win more than five games this season, it will be a frikkin' miracle. I'd say we'd have a shot at the Dolphins, but I'd have thought we had a shot at the Giants, the Vikings, etc... too. Rhule and Co. as coaches are pretty much dead men walking. This isn't a "we're rebuilding" thing as much as it is a "that team is completely unprepared" when it comes to offense and special teams. And personnel decisions have been a lot more misses than hits, from free agents to draftees to contract extensions. Snow has created a defense that's tough, but beyond that this team is as embarrassing as any Panthers team that didn't rely on Chris Weinke as its main weapon. This guy isn't coaching up to even the George Seifert level. Let that sink in.

Yeah, Darnold is done. Maybe a really good coach could have rehabilitated him after the Jets. We'll never know because he came here and reverted back to his old ways after three games. That being said, he isn't THE problem, he's just one of the on field parts of it. Joe Brady is not an NFL-level coaching guy. Our QBs coach is not an NFL quality guy. Our Receivers Coach isn't an NFL quality guy. Nor our TE coach. Our offensive line coach isn't capable of coaching in high school. Our strength and conditioning team needs to be shown the door. If Rhule wants to save his job, he needs to shitcan that whole lot and replace them as fast as possible. Honestly, though, Rhule probably needs to go as well. There's too much talent on this team to perform this badly, this consistently. If I were Tepper, I'd bring the entire coaching staff and the GM in and treat them to a resume writing seminar and a presentation by the local Two Men and a Truck moving company sales reps.

Chili dogs and tater tots.

Happy birthday!!!