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2nd place is the 1st loser. That's how I was raised.

Some guys don't want to move beyond being a position coach and maybe Proehl is one of those guys.

Bersin is a move the chain guy with good hands, good routes, and good size. I don't think he'll ever be more than a role player, but I have no issue with him at all. Plus Cam seems to like him.

If players are not overwhelmed and/or lost they are not normal. Luke was out of sorts at first as well and this is to be expected.

I watch every USC game and Byrd is electric. He has elite speed and is very shifty, however, he is tiny. I can't imagine he will be able to take NFL hits, but I would have said the same thing about Sproles. If he can hold up, he will be an interesting gadget/deep ball kind of guy. Nice pick up with nice upside.

Do people really think the Texans would trade a 2nd round pick after two years for a 5th or later? No way this will happen.

NC's process for misdemeanor appeals is unusual in my opinion.

I think the judge found Hardy guilty because he is guilty. Further, innocent people don't pay off witnesses. I don't practice in NC and the appeals process for Hardy's conviction is rather unusual. De novo is just a standard of review and doesn't erase a guilty verdict.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I see where you are coming from. Since I work in the legal field I have a different perspective than most and I understand how difficult it is to get a conviction and judges are super smart people.

Fair perspective but I trust a guilty conviction from a judge over the Huddle. None of us have seen all the court documents, pics, etc. and the people that have (judge and NFL to an extent) seem to think what Hardy did was bad. Also, don't think for a second that the Panthers didn't see the same information. I'll never understand why anyone defends a player just because he is famous and has God gifted athleticism. As I've said many times, once I heard "alcohol, drugs, and assault riffles out in the open" Hardy lost the benefit of doubt.

The NFL was allowed to see the court exhibits that contained pictures of Holder's injuries that have not been released to the public. Seems these pics must have been bad. http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/12745022/how-nfl-roger-goodell-got-right-greg-hardy-suspension

According to ESPN, the court docs reflect that Hardy called after Nicole and her friend called 911 and the judge thought Hardy's call was an attempted cover up.

This thread is sad. I can't imagine why anyone would defend someone that beat a women. If Hardy wasn't famous and rich, he would almost certainly be in jail right now versus complaining about a 10 game suspension that still allows him to make $5 million.

We just let Hardy go bc of domestic abuse and there is a 0% chance we draft this guy and take on another one.

Let's turn this into a Hardy thread.

610 is awful. I prefer the guy out of Winston Salem and his name escapes me at the moment. He's a retired lawyer and I feel has honest reporting rather than trying to break every story. I'm a big fan of Cowherd.

90% of negative quotes are taken out of context and misquoted. The media doesn't have much credibility any more and is why most public figures avoid them.

I suspect this quote was taken out of context and misquoted. No way any attorney would ever say this about his client even if he believes it.

I think they are funny. If you don't like them, just don't log on tomorrow.

He's a OL starter in the NFL the Panthers essentially got for nothing. Can't imagine why anyone has an issue with this.

Significant upgrade over Cotchery. Jennings had a rookie QB last year that didn't come into his own until the 2nd half of the season.

I wonder what the going rate is for Jennings?

The percentages show that 75% of 1st round picks become starters and 50% in the second round. You have to hit on these picks and the rest is gravy if you will. The good teams regularly hit on the later round picks and bad teams don't.

Well said and some people just don't get it. I'd love to keep Hardy, but I'd never make him a franchise player.

Cam isn't going anywhere and I quit worrying about this years ago.