Jay Roosevelt

Fitterer is an idiot for a lot of other things, but yes, this was a huge mistake. Not only is Burns not worth two 1sts + anything (there are only a handful of elite defenders in the game that are) but turning that offer down killed any leverage we may have had in negotiations with Burns. Once he turned that offer down he essentially backed himself into a corner where he either had to pay Burns whatever he was asking for, trade him for less than what the Rams offered, or let him walk for nothing. It's amazing to me the talent exodus that has taken place on this team since Fitterer became GM. The sheer number of good, great, or elite players who we have either traded, allowed to leave without much of an effort to re-sign, or released is laughable, especially considering the lack of talent that we've acquired over the same period. Most of the actual impactful talent that we have brought in we then allowed to leave for nothing. From Haason Reddick to Stephon Gilmore to D.J. Moore to Christian McCaffrey to Rasul Douglas to Denzel Perryman to D'onta Foreman if the list of players we have seen leave this team under Fitterer isn't enough to make you nauseous a list of the players he has spent money and/or draft picks to acquire and/or retain certainly is. From free agent "additions" like Pat Elfein, Cam Erving, Damien Wilson, Hayden Hurst and Miles Sanders to the trade for Sam Darnold and his miserable draft record that has left us thin at basically every position and has produced almost zero value after round 1 and his contract extensions for the likes of Ian Thomas and Robbie Anderson I can't fathom how this guy still has a job. And that's not even getting into the Bryce Young trade and pick, which certainly isn't trending in the right direction. The only positive moves his entire tenure has produced are the signings of Frankie Luvu, Austin Corbett, and Adam Thielen and maybe drafting Chuba Hubbard. Jaycee Horn we know is a good player, but that only matters when he's on the field and we could have had Micah Parsons at that pick. As big of a problem as Frank Reich is, Scott Fitterer has been for longer. It's true that he made yet another in a long list of blunders by turning down the offer for Burns from the Rams, but given his record there's a good chance those picks would have been wasted regardless.

Conspiracy theories. There isn't any plot to move the team; Tepper is just this bad at being an owner.

Ahead? They've been here for 5 years already.

This. Otherwise Bryce may get killed.

This. At least Ickey has shown flashes; Neal has been completely awful.

I mean, I get why those guys are here; they were here when Reich got here (minus Zavala) and had played well last year. The question is why we opted to switch blocking schemes when it should have been obvious that our players aren't suited for it. You shouldn't dismantle your OL purely because of a scheme change (assuming the line has shown they can perform in one scheme) you just don't change schemes.

I'm not saying Bryce hasn't played poorly. What I'm saying is the entire offense around him has as well. Bryce has been bad. The OL has been bad. The receivers have been bad, Thielen aside. The RBs have been bad. The scheme is bad. The players are bad and mismatched; so are the coaches. All I'm saying is ANY rookie QB is likely to struggle when literally everything around him is bad. That's not an excuse; it's a fact. Bryce has to be better, but so does the team and coaching around him.

Based on his play earlier this year, the only blocking scheme Chandler Zavala is suited for involves legos.

If his footwork is so bad why isn't the coaching staff addressing it? That is something that should absolutely be fixable.

Y'all act like Andy Dalton is Tom Brady or something. Any QB is going to struggle behind this OL with these receivers and no run game, especially against Dallas.

I doubt this offense would look semi-competent against Dallas if we had Mahomes at QB.

This is ignored by a large segment of the Huddle, but heading into the draft it's not like we were the only team that had Bryce Young as the #1 QB prospect. He may not have been the 100% consensus #1 around the league, but he was viewed that way by a significant majority of the league. This notion that if we hadn't taken Bryce that he would have dropped out of the 1st round or even out of the top-5 is just nonsense. It certainly appears that we should have taken C.J. Stroud at this point, but if that does end up being the case long-term then let's not pretend that the Panthers were the only team that would have made the mistake.

Dysfunctional organization.

Absolutely fuging not.

People bitch about Bryce over Stroud, but how about Mingo over Dell?

They're not just unafraid of being beat deep, they're not afraid of our receivers being able to do anything after the catch either. Between the OL being forced into a zone blocking scheme that they're just not suited for and trying to run a quick strike passing game with slow possession receivers we're pretty well fuged. I'll admit Bryce can certainly play a lot better, but this is a situation that would be tough for any QB to perform in.

This is an ignorant statement made to support your anti-Bryce bias. Deep passing is down league-wide. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38378450/nfl-death-long-passing-deep-ball-aerial-yards-negative-trend Go watch the Chiefs, Dolphins, 49ers, etc. Most of the top offenses in the league are based on short, quick passing games in one form or another. Next time try to bother actually knowing something about what you're talking about before you post more of your smart-ass nonsense.

This x 1,000. Too many cooks in the kitchen. There's nothing wrong with wanting to run a quick passing game; most of today's top offenses are running something similar (KC, Miami, 49ers) but we simply don't have the personnel to run it correctly. You need quick, agile receivers and RBs to run that kind of offense. We have an aging slot receiver who wasn't particularly fast in his prime, one straight-line speed guy in Chark, and a big possession guy in Mingo. Not to mention our OL is being forced into a zone blocking scheme that doesn't suit them either. If the coaching staff is too many cooks in the kitchen, the personnel on offense is that x 100.

Dallas against our OL... he might end up with more than a sprained ankle. I don't see anything good coming from this game.

Man, I actually feel bad for the Giants. And that's saying something coming from a Panthers fan right now.

No, because I know 'what if?' He'd look like ass here just the same as any QB would.