45catfan

A one-year loss. Dude, you are acting like this is setting the franchise back decades. He's going to be an overpaid backup next season to finish up this deal. We are not going to cut him because you incur dead cap AND have to fill the spot. It was a stab at a potential franchise QB when Teddy didn't work out. The 5th-year option came along with Darnold. They chose to pick up the option which now doesn't look wise, but it's not a franchise busting mistake. Dude's get overpaid all the time in this League, why you are so fascinated with Danrold is beyond me? I mean if your so bored you want to continue on all day, I can go to OTC and cherry-pick tons of contracts that overvalued (I actually have to get some yard work done at some point). Why? Teams take a risk at extending, re-working, offering new deals based off what they value that player to be for that organization. Does that backfire? Oh, heck yes, many times over. Best case scenario at that point is take your lumps and move on. LUCKILY for us it's just...one...season.

Did the coaching staff ever run to the DBO sign? Nah, otherwise Rhule would weigh around 180 pounds.

If Darnold had worked out, then they had the leverage and Darnold's trust to work out a long-term deal down the road. You have the benefit of hindsight. If Darnold had worked out, would you be on here laboring your point about this option? I doubt it. Yes, Cam does have something to do with this. You can't cherry pick deals. This organization pulled a dude...that no other team wanted anything to do with, off the coach and yes, literally hugged him (picture with Tepper) to come save this team. So if the Cam 2.0 experiment implodes, was it a dumb deal that had a bunch of risk? Indicators were (cut in favor of a rookie and couldn't get a phone call from other teams) this signing has little chance of success. Both obviously had their risks. We could have just rolled with PJ, saved the $6M-10M and still manage to finish out of the playoffs. Only thing now is Cam might actually win 1-2 games and worsen our draft position.

They couldn't spread it out unless they reworked his deal. Secondly, it's only a bad move now because it didn't work. If Cam goes 0-7 or 1-6 as the starter, was that a bad move too? Sure seemed like a good move at the time up until that 5.8 QBR, right? The only guarantee is that our OL is and has been garbage that would make just about any QB look bad.

LOl...that was funny! My point being Brady had his pick of places, sure, but he was going to pick a place that had a competent, proven staff. That said, the Panthers were never an option.

He's overpaid for only one season. This season is what it is. Even if he went on IR day 1 with a ruptutred ACL, his salary for this year is what it is. I agree, he's overpaid next year as a backup, but it's only one year and he'll carry no dead cap unless he's actually cut. We carried so much dead cap and had so many bloated contracts in the past that Darnold's 5th-year, while expensive, is by no means going to hurt the team long term. I'll say int one more time, it was a short-trem calculated risk. Hind sight is 202/20 and had he actually continued to play decent like his first few games, it would have been worth it. It's like Cam's deal. If he came off the couch and actually got this team winning, that would have been worth the money. Right now he's 0-2 as the starter. His base contract comes out to just under $1M/game for the 7 games he has/will start. Darnold's 5th-year option next year would be a little over $1M per game if he were the starter every game. Difference?

Again, I doubt Brady would have "picked" Tampa if say, a Matt Rhule-type of HC was there. Way over simplifying it, man. Is Arians a great coach? Nope. Is he head and shoulders above what we have here? Abso-freaking-lutely!

I'm pretty sure Arians had a little bit of input in that. Do you think some green college coach would have had the clout to make that happen? Edit: In 9 seasons he's only had 2 sub-.500 records, both 7 win seasons. We can't even get to this man's worst record.

It's not a $19M wash. He's not getting cut. He's at least going to be a backup and I get you are throwing low-end numbers out there for backups with his experience to emphasize your point. Yes, we will lose money on the transaction for one season. What teams doesn't have an overpaid player? This team has a history of deals that hampers it for years down the road. Matt Kahlil is one of many, many, many instances that's comes to mind. Darnold's option is not going to burden this franchise for the long term and it was worth the risk. Again, I take MUCH more issue with the Anderson deal and trading for Henderson.

Nope. Again, it was a calculated risk and a short-term one. The only dumb move would to been to get him here, rework his rookie deal and actually extend him. The 1-year flier on picking up the option is not a deal breaker to me. Also, there are not a BUNCH of holes to fill. This team with a few roster moves in the offseason and competent coaching would be a winner. This teams record is not indicative of it's talent level. Your sarcasm isn't amusing either. No Cam should not get $20M next year. Cam should be happy for a job back in the NFL this year. His contract to finish out half a season for a dude on his couch could be considered in the same capacity as Sam's 5th-year option.

Joe Brady to Independence High school.

Only 1-year when we have PLENTY of cap room in hopes to boost the guys confidence keep him around if he actually balled, sure. A good backup QB will command about $10M, so if Darnold is our backup next year he's overpaid by like $9M. Kinda sucks, but isn't doing any long term damage. Anderson's deal hurts a heck of a lot more.

Sam I didn't mind, he had success until the offense had a rash of injuries and teams figured out Brady's offense. Is he broken now? Perhaps, but some of that was his limitations and most of it was this staff. You did witness Cam's 5.8 QBR yesterday, correct? It's safe to say that most QBS would struggle here. The Henderson move was the one of those I didn't agree with. Dude had red flags everywhere and we still made the move. How much of that was the coaching staff in utter panic when Horn got injured and how much was that was on Fitts? I'm not sure, but no font office is going to bat .1000. I do pin the Anderson contract on Fitts, but again, I'll chalk one bad contract up as a loss as long as it isn't a trend, a la Marty Hurney.

I would not have given Anderson his deal and would not have traded for Henderson. The Gilmore pick up was nice, taking a flyer on Darnold I didn't mind. You almost had to do the 5th year option to signify you have the guy's back. It's one year. Even bringing back Cam to patch things up even it's in the short-term I thought was an positive move. Again, Fitts/Morgan keep giving Rhule the tools to succeed. Rhule & staff are just out of their depth and seemingly are content on using a pipe wrench to tighten a lose screw.

This is a purely a coaching issue and not so much a talent/scouting/roster issue. Fitts and Morgan should stay. Rhule's entire coaching staff needs to be run out of town. Fitts has made a few mistakes, but overall he has put players on this team in an effort to win. This roster is not void of talent. GMs bring in the talent and the COACHES figure out the best way to use those players, motivate those players and improve those players. That's called coaching.

So we come out of the bye beating a horrible Falcons team and get bludgeoned in horrific fashion by the Bills and Bucs just so Rhule can show progress on last year's record (by 1 game) citing this as improvement.

I have zero faith in this staff making a significant step forward next year. If you lose a team halfway through a season, then you are a garbage staff. Rhule has lost this team. He might win one more game and technically improve upon last year's record, but is that really improvement? I was WAY more optimistic about last year's 5 win team than I am about this year's 5 win team. That's regression and in no way gives me hope for this squad under Rhule's watch next year.

They tried the college route too. It JUST DOESN'T WORK! Then they went out and finally got one of those boring NFL "re-treads" with Bruce Arians. That hasn't worked out too badly for them, has it?

If I counted correctly, Cam was 1-8 on 3rd down passes today. The one was the 64-yard pass to Moore who was wide open on a blown assignment. Also, one miss was an INT. You can't be that off on 3rd down.

No, no, it's going to get better because his contract is 7 years. I mean things can't get worse in year 3, right?

Capers--> NFC Championship year 2 Fox--> Super Bowl year 2 Rivera--> 7-9 year 2, but was 5-3 in the back half of the season with a 4 game win streak to close it out to warrant a 3rd year . Year 3 we were in the playoffs. Rhule has lost this team. Outside of the Falcons and perhaps the Saints, we aren't winning another game. Set aside 3-0 start, this team has been in obvious decline as the season wears on.

Rhule's 7-year contract means diddly to Tepper in terms of money. So money isn't the reason why he would hang onto him. Pride is the only thing holding Tepper back by giving an unproven NFL HC such a lucrative deal. Firing Rhule would show what an idiotic move that was. Right now, if money was spread evenly over the life of the deal, Tepper would be out of $43 million. That's play money to this dude. He's trying to keep egg off his face, but he's going to have to swallow that bitter pill sooner rather than later. If this team only wins one or two more games this season, is that enough to warrant another year of this mediocrity?

So if Rhule is a program builder, why do we get worse as the season goes on? As mentioned Rivera was 7-9 in 2nd season, but that team went 5-1 in the last six games was competitive in all but 2 games all season. THAT team was building towards something. THIS team has ZERO identity and is only getting WORSE.

ONE drive today, just ONE. That ONE had a busted coverage that got the offense deep enough to do finish off the drive. Other than that, the offense couldn't hardly get a first down.