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Ngl, McCarthy is ass. They let Darnold go for this?

The meat and potatoes: Out of 30 qualifying QBs in Week 1, Young ranked: Dead last in EPA (-0.60) Dead last in success rate (20%) Dead last in Y/A at 3.6 Dead last in passer rating at 27.5 How are you averaging just 3.6 Y/A on unpressured dropbacks in the first half of a game? Thinking back to that halftime deficit, I’m reminded of this stat: The Panthers led at halftime in three of Young’s 12 starts last year. They are now 0 for 1 this year. In his 29 career starts, the Panthers have led at halftime in 5 of 29 (17%). Since 2000, there have been 37 QBs to start at least 25 games in their first two years in the NFL. Young is the ONLY QB to lead at halftime in fewer than six of his starts. Young is the ONLY QB to lead at halftime in fewer than 20% of his starts. So many people were backing Young based on the super small sample at the end of the year when they thought he played better, and he did play moderately better. But even in those games, he delivered average stats against the NFL’s easiest schedule of pass defenses to close the year, with every opponent ranking 20th or worse. There’s never been a QB who rebounded from performance like Young delivered in his first couple of years to go on to become a franchise quarterback. Some stay around as a journeyman, but they don’t lead teams. The Panthers put all their eggs in the Young basket this offseason. The Panthers were the darlings to win the NFC South by many. Yes, it’s only one game, and there certainly are opportunities to improve. The opportunity is to start someone else at QB. I don’t want to see anymore debate in whether Bryce is the worst QB ever. Especially not the worst #1 overall pick ever. What a fuging bust.

God damn.

Bryce would’ve goofily tripped over his own feet right there and fumbled.

Look how decisive Williams is. And once he makes the decision, look how much zip those passes have. Awww man. I miss having a physically capable NFL QB. And he’s not much bigger than the middle schooler we chose #1 overall. But what a difference in physical ability.

That man was drafted with our pick.

Like a true #1 pick is supposed to.

When people here, myself included, say they could do what Bryce does as a thrower of the football, I have no instinct to correct them, because I know they aren’t lying. His ability is in the same level as men whose testosterone has been on the decline for 10+ years and haven’t thrown a football or ran full speed in almost just as long. He’s a fuging bum. that scramble and throw by Williams highlight it more than anything. And it’s maddening that we have a whole organization that watches him throw fuging cans of corn to receivers 5 yards away, and still push what a prospect he’ll be once everything comes together. I fuging hate everything about Tepper.

Have I told yall? I fuging hate David Tepper?

Not a Williams guy, but look at that improvisation and that bullet of a pass on the run for a crucial first down. When Bryce does that, that pass looks like a fuging 5 year old threw it.

Feel that stabbing pain every time the Bears make an amazing offensive play with the HC that rejected our advances because we’re a shitty franchise ran by a fuging horrible owner with the numerous assets they acquired in our dumbass pursuit of Bryce Young.

Dave said in the presser that apparently he thought XL was gonna go to the back pylon. So it was an actual attempt… to a WR that was running towards him and the front pylon, towards the back pylon, and still a solid 10-15 ft off the ground.

Yeah, Dave sounded salty when asked about something to do with the defense later too, and one of the reporters said something about what did EE say to him, and Dave very dryly said, “we just had some great conversations.” and when followed up about the playing young guys, he said, we as a staff have to get these young guys out there. i think, unless the defense picks it up dramatically over the next 3 games, EE is probably gone by midseason.

lol fug this team.

No doubt, the the Bears straight up American History X shower scene’d us.. They had to be pinching themselves when we called, “Are they fuging serious? Is this real? Hell yeah, we’ll wait another year.”

I don’t think “worst ever” is hyperbole. Again, there are statistics that he literally has been the worst in league history in for the number of starts he has had. He may have moved up slightly on those, but again, throw in the value that was given up for him, and I think it’s a pretty easy conclusion to make.

I was just thinking about this earlier… I don’t think it’s emphasized enough, how absolutely insane it is that we consciously as an organization decided to go into this season with the most important position on the entire team with his security teetering on what he looks like in the first 4 games or so. Last year, they went in fully committed and still yanked him after 2 bad games. All it took was 2 bad games to bench him after going all-in with him for the season. There was never even a word about that being a possibility until it was already done due to his horrid play. This year, after knowing he had already been benched previously for said horrid play, and public opinion divided on if he’s even an NFL QB, the leash is theoretically even shorter than before. So, Dave, Dan, Bryce, they all know… it’s in the back of all their minds - what is the threshold for him getting benched again? And again, we literally decided to go into the season with that poo hanging over the whole team, all while they tried to peddle that “end of season” stretch bullshit to justify it. Again, all knowing if (for us with brains, “when”) he played bad, the hook is coming. Just fuging insane.

After Corbett, Bryce was THE worst player on the field yesterday. And they have him at 71 and 3rd best on offense?? Must be the same guy that credited him with all those “big time throws” he led the league in after coming back from his benching.

I’m with you, but a .500 season and then a season of 2-14 isn’t winning. And there are levels to it. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m wait you - I would kill to get back to one season on, one season off like it was under JR. But the vast majority of that team that Fam walked into had not won anything of note. And if 2 seasons of not winning produced that environment, imagine how horrible of an environment we have now.

Watching it a little further, I also like how he justifies his meddling by saying the pick of Bryce will save us money in the long-term because we won’t need elite receivers… *checks notes* appears here that we spent a first round pick in the last two drafts on receivers and also tried to trade for DK Metcalf while agreeing to pay him a huge contract. Hmmm… I fuging hate Tepper.

I honestly don’t think he ever will change. He couldn’t punch his way out of this wet paper bag he created with scissors in his hands. I think back to the early takes on Jimmy Haslem, the Browns owner. For that first few years, he couldn’t get out of his own way. Same poo. The fans were miserable and were worried he was exactly who David Tepper is now… and then Haslem took a step back. He hired football guys and let them make the decisions. And something clicked… now, they’ve done some really dumbass stuff since, but they started drafting some gems, developing them, and even went to the playoffs a few years. Led by Baker, they came damn close to beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. But I could never see Tepper doing any of that. He is so damn egotistical and stubborn. Haslem wasn’t pulling up to restaurants and demanding people change critical signs of him. Haslem wasn’t throwing drinks on the poors heckling him. Haslem wasn’t getting on broadcasts with his poo eating grin and calling fans basement dwellers. He was willing to take a step back and learn. At minimum, Tepper should’ve been at that stage two or three years in. And then he forces the Bryce pick. And then he makes us see it through for a minimum of three years. It’s clear he still thinks he knows more than anyone else… and for that reason, this will not turn around under Tepper. Our only hope is he sells, and he won’t. He would move the team before he had to sell it just to stick it to this fanbase for telling him about himself. He’s a fuging douche. And sadly, because all of the decisions have been and will be so bad from top to bottom, we won’t ever even accidentally back into the playoffs because we will never have the talent or coaching. It is fuging groundhogs day for misery as a Panthers fan.

We’ve been having a bad day since 2018. It’s time to bring the paper bags out.

Ngl, until last year, I had missed maybe 1 game my entire life, and that was for my best friend’s wedding. Then last year, I missed almost every game. Was going through a contentious divorce and working, so watching us expectedly suck wasn’t high on my list of things to do. So I didn’t see a lot of XL. I know what he physically looks like. I’ve watched him workout/prepare for the season. I’ve seen clips and highlights of what he’s done. And I know his measureables and strengths and weaknesses based off scouting reports. Respectfully, I think he is already more of a player than TMJ or Mingo ever could have conceivably been, and he already outproduced them as a rookie. For that reason alone, I’ve been hopeful. But in watching him even briefly so far, I can see why he frustrates many. I still think he can develop into something like a DK or Deebo. I just don’t think he is in a situation that is conducive to him becoming that. But, I’m also not selling the farm in belief he will become that here or anywhere else. As you said, we have a long history of reaching and just making bad picks under Tepper. It’s possible XL is yet another product of that. I just think giving him another year will tell us more… still gonna be tough to evaluate until we have a real QB regardless.

Sounds right. And yet, we have people still searching for any reason why he is bad that isn’t Bryce Young himself.

Damn straight. I honestly think most that bring him up didn’t watch those years. Or not closely. He was really solid to good. It was just a bad deal because of the assets we gave up for him.