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He may have been, but at that point everyone paying attention knows the Saints were winning primarily off the strength of their defense and Kamara's running. Note the actual statement I made vs the one you most likely assigned me. Payton did demonstrate some ability to extend his team's ability to win beyond Brees tenure, but no one called him an offensive genius watching Bridgewater, Taysum Hill and Jamies Winston sling the ball. Once Payton realized it was going to be far harder to win without a Pro Bowl QB at the helm, he walked away.

All of which is still easier than finding an above average starting QB in the NFL. If you don't think so, consider how often teams turn over their coaching staff vs how often they jettison a franchise qb during his prime. You can sign, draft or trade for another qb the following season yes. But that is a VASTLY different thing from signing, drafting or trading for an above average performing QB. Tepper has proven JAGs can be had by the bushel. So what? Does that get you where you want to go?

QB. And it's not close. An awful HC can hamstring your team's ability to compete. A brilliant HC can make your team somewhat more competitive, but the reality is most fall into a range of not brilliant, not awful, but acceptable. Finding a coach who falls into this category is not especially difficult. Getting a top tier QB is orders of magnitude harder because it's orders of magnitude more a crapshoot. The impact that player has on your record is also far greater than all but a few possible coaching options. The post Tom Brady Patriots make it abundantly clear that Brady was the far bigger factor in the team's success over those years than Bellicheat ever was. Sean Payton didn't look like an offensive genius without Brees. Mike Tomlin has a SB ring, but hardly looks like a world beater without Big Ben.

Because bad teams often make the mistake of hiring a poor candidate because he has experience. This leads to the perception bad teams can't attract quality candidates. The very best candidates (ie proven winners) will often sit on the sidelines do tv work or whatnot until a better option than with a known bad organization comes along. But at the end of the day, by far the most powerful factor is what you mentioned. Only 32 jobs, they are high profile and they pay amazing. Hundreds of coaches from assistant to college ranks would sell they grandmother for the job. They aren't all bad candidates.

Ding Ding Ding. He's found the true motivation behind the push for a new stadium. Tell him what he's won!

One of the weird things about billionaires is how often they're willing to waste their own and everybody else's time fighting over sums of money completely trivial to them for spite. IMO when you're a billionaire, you should stop thinking about money and start thinking about time. It's the nonrenewable resource that is far more finite to you than money is at that point. Tepper is just screwing himself and everyone else by being petty over Rock Hill.

Tell me you're emotionally immature without telling me you're emotionally immature. *Waits for the inevitable pooing of his post for no reason other than childishly holding a grudge over getting waxed in an argument years ago.*

Tentatively over sounds like a description of every college romance that starts at a keg party or the name of the band that played that party.

Perspective. Many folks lack it. Also the number who won't watch the video and won't read anything more than thread title and first sentence of your post or so is north of half. They are kneejerking to a very limited pre conceived notion of what your post says. They didn't actually read it or watch the video.

Sounds almost as if football is a team game, and the talent and performance of your teammates matters. Nah. Can't be that.

I could see McDaniels being the reason behind my concern about Carr's statistical decline the past two years.

By many accounts we wanted Hebert. We were one pick away from having the option to draft him. Where is this franchise right now if we get him? Given how far the pendulum swings if you get the right QB in the draft, I'm of the opinion that if there's a prospect you believe in, and you can take him, you take him. Getting cute with trading down doesn't feel worth it to me. Outside of a pass rusher and MAYBE a premier pass catching TE, I don't see a glaring hole on the roster that commands a first round pick. I think this team is at a point where until it fixes QB and coaching, nothing else is gonna matter much. If only I could draft Don Shula or Bill Walsh.

I think I could be on board with trading for him as our bridge with the notion we do not intend to resign him. Carr as a middle of the road QB only brings you playoff success if surrounded by an above average roster, and I don't think we can credibly say our roster is that yet. We have a strong Oline and a secondary that shows promise, no other position group can be labeled standout. Carr gets us to a better place than we are now, but that's an absurdly low bar atm.

This is an interesting question. To answer Mr. Scott's point, I think Carr is a credibly proven commodity. The fan who can't see that and compares him to Mayfield and Darnold is the kind of fan who is going to kneejerk no matter what you do, so you don't worry about him. If Carr comes here and starts winning, everyone shuts up. What concerns me looking at his numbers is that he appears to have peaked two years ago and looks to be on the decline. Not massively on the decline, but he is 9 years in, and you can't blame his decline on the organization suddenly becoming poo. He's been with the Raiders his whole career and they are who they are. I'm inclined to think his contract is more of a plus than a minus. After two years, the cap hit you take if you need to cut him is peanuts for cutting a QB, or really any highly paid starter. Meanwhile, he's signed for the next 3 years at what will doubtlessly look like a reasonable rate after yet another round of nosebleed inducing signings this offseason. Is he anywhere near as cheap as a drafted QB on a rookie deal? Of course not, but any such rookie is a crap shoot, Carr is not. I think I'd be inclined to at least listen, but much would depend on my evaluation of this year's crop of draftable qb's, and also what the Raiders want for him. Likely I'd pass, but the question was, do you pick up the phone? I'd at least pick up the phone.

Yes. I'm definitely known for starting too many threads around here. You got me with that one. So on point. Dude I was just messing with you. Relax. Not everything has to be attack mode.

Is it? Click on Brooklyn's link and actually read the article. It would seem to suggest there's a lot of hard science that says there's little to no difference and actual injury rates are slightly worse on grass. Yes turf is cheaper to maintain, but player dislike of it may boil down to not liking turf burns (which sucks but aren't actual injuries) and a misperception it's less safe. Not actual hard evidence to back up that claim. I'll admit, the article surprised me, but if we're going to be intellectually honest, we have to consider it's merits.

Why the concussion protocol is important for football players. Exhibit A.

RB's are completely fungible. If anyone can't see that a center of Bozeman's quality would be far far harder to replace than any sort of RB you care to name, I don't know what to tell them.

A good tight end could go a long way to helping the offense. Tremble looks decent so far but isn't a premier pass catcher, and top end tight ends put so much pressure on a defense. Outside of QB itself, this seems like the biggest need on the offensive side. I wouldn't draft a TE ahead of a comparable pass rushing prospect, but that's my only real caveat there.

*points to article 4 subsection 42 of the Huddle Code of Conduct where it very clearly states No Nuance.*

*shoots the messenger.* This damn nerf gun sucks.

Grandpa, what did the Sphinx look like when it still had it's nose?

Clearly that last name is weighing him down enough to keep him from earning any real playing time. If he's not on the field I'm not worried about how to say his name. That's some ST assistant's problem.

Oh waiter.... I'll have whatever the OP is smoking.

Voted. Thanks for posting. Good on Brown. Doing work on and off the field. Well done young man.