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It wasnt the same mistake twice though. Was it the same route? Yes. Was it basically the same position on the field? Yes. But completely, entirely different circumstances. Both were mistakes, but they weren't the same mistake twice, unless you just mean "threw an int" broadly.

He has studied more film professionally than any person on this site. Bust or not, he has LOTS of experience watching and studying film. Far more than almost anything else you will find youtube.

Sail the high seas, arrrrggghhh

1. JT hate, Hates, HATES Adam Thielen. Anyone know why? 2. Seeing the all-22 from the 2nd interception makes it clear he wasn't staring down the receiver, if that wasn't obvious from the game film. 3. TMJ sucks. Is he just lazy? Was that 2 deep routes where he was "overthrown" because he didn't go full speed on his entire route?

I agree. I've watched enough JT to know this is middle field closed. TMJ's route should have never even been looked at. Better yet, pre-snap TMJ should have been checked out of that route. Not sure who's job that would have been.

It looks like Burns gave up the edge to go for the tackle, trying to play hero. Shaq had the gap, Burns didn't need to give up the edge. Straight up, he didn't do his job. Honestly, he reacted too quick and opened up the outside.

I noticed this quite a bit as well. That said when the play break down and there is a receiver down field with the mailbox flag up, gotta see those.

If we clean up the turnovers, the defense looks like its good enough to keep us in games. We don't have the weapons to be a scoring powerhouse yet.

Just a point here, count the defenders in the frame.

In his presser, he was asked a couple times about the ints. He said the safety wasn't at the depth he expected. He later went further and said he read the coverage but, the safety did not have the depth he assumed he would be at. Bryce said it was different than the x's and o's and he should have actually checked before throwing. This sounds like a rookie problem. That's good. I'm not ready to crown Bryce Young and I'm not ready to write him off. I expected to lose today. All the top 10 rookie QB's lost today.

That was play call. I don't know if he was supposed to drop into coverage or spy or designed delayed rush, but it definitely wasn't his choice to not immediately rush the passer.

First pick, safety came flying in from the other side of the field. Safety made a great play. The second pick was dumbfounding. As for his play the last 4 minutes, there is literally no point in throwing to receivers downfield if they are blanketed. I don't think anyone here can say if he was missing downfield targets that were open without the all-22. I don't think it's a good idea to try to force a miracle if it's not there.

Bryce setting the baseline low. Makes it easier to show week over week improvement. 3d chess

Fitts job is dependent on Bryce succeeding, not Burns contract. Good grief people are idiots.

Yep. Unless we win by 30+, I fully expect some people to still find something to be down about. Of course the Burns contract might still be the big talking point for negative nancies.

Everything is in the contracts. It's a poo deal when there are no guaranteed monies, but a lot of fields have contracts like this. For example, I sign contracts everyday that says I dont' get paid if they dont' get paid. Cost of doing business. That said, when there is guaranteed money involved, the team can terminate the contract, but with financial consequences. The player cannot "terminate" the contract, but they can stop working, and again there are financial consequences as well as a non-compete clause - they can't sign another contract in the NFL while still under contract. It is a two way street, just lopsided toward the employer (team), which is typical of employment contracts. Nobody is forced to sign a contract. You can try to negotiate some of these clauses out that favor the team, but you won't. And you won't find another team to do so either in most cases. No trade clauses is an example of something (being traded) that favors the team that players have been able to successfully negotiate out of.

I feel like everybody in this thread is talking about a completely different topic than OP.

Wut? Am I missing something? With claiming Matt Corral, the Patriots essentially gained 2 picks, our 3rd and our 4th for free. We didn't lose 3 picks in that trade, no matter which way you slice it. That's some head scratching math.

Taking the high road in public is the right thing to do, and doesn't matter at all. Behind closed doors, people in the building knows what's what. Maybe that is Fitterer, maybe it's Rhule, maybe it's Tepper making the picks. Everyone in those meetings knows who was making each pick, where there were disagreements and when people deferred and who was overruled entirely. They all know, and there is absolutely 0 reason to air whatever laundry at a press conference. Good leaders take responsibilty. They don't throw people under the bus in public.

We had this same situation 2 or 3 years ago. They will get swapped out for other positions.

Well that answers my second question from the other thread. It also says that 32 of 32 teams also think our depth was trash.

I am not feeling whelmed. Also curious which if any of our cuts were picked up by someone else. I haven't seen anything.

He's listed as nickel on the "official" depth chart, not safety. So technically a CB.

The initial 53 is perplexing but I'm not butt hurt over the guys we cut. They were mostly all trash. But my god the lack of CB's and Dline is concerning. I'm sure we will fill out the roster properly, but will these new guys be any better than what we had?

Too bad about Zonovan Knight. The kid is the son of one of Julius Peppers friends from back in Bailey, NC.