tukafan21

There is a huge difference between performing at 100% and being so out of shape that you literally can't finish the drills. If he was just a bit sloppy out there and his times weren't great, sure, you could blame that on what's going on around him. But putting on almost 10 lbs in 2 weeks, knowing what is at stake, and then being THAT out of shape, that's extreme. I'm also someone who absolutely would fall apart mentally in his situation, so I'm not bashing him for that. But if I was in his situation, with his NFL career on the line, I'd at least be in shape enough to finish the drills and/or be aware enough that I wouldn't be able to finish them and would come up with some other excuse as to why I couldn't work out. Say you pulled a hamstring or twisted your ankle a few days ago in training, that's way better than not being able to finish the workout.

So..... what you're saying is that you want to draft a guy who is showing he can't get ready for the most important job interview of his life because he's too distracted by other things in his life. And you want to go out and give him millions of dollars and expect him to then be able to keep his mind focused on football at that point? Yea.... hard pass

Well now that Williams is off the market, I'd really like to see us go out and get Mattison

Vet minimum, sure... but he's not playing for the minimum

I agree on Stroud, but I don't think Young gets broken in year 1. I just don't see how Young can have a long career at his size, the hits are going to add up and he's going to break down at some point well before you'd like your #1 pick to break down. He'll be good for 2 or 3 years, but I think around the time he's starting that second contract, he's gonna be missing a lot of games every year.

It absolutely does when you're drafting #1 overall, you want to sign a backup that compliments who you're going to draft in one way or another. What that reasoning is what the staff needs to decide, but it's 100% a factor. That person you sign has to do so with the understanding of what the plan is or else it has the chance to blow up in your face if they're not okay with their role in the end. Are they signing with the expectation that they have a legitimate chance at starting Week 1? Are they signing with the understanding that they're the backup for the top pick Week 1? Are they signing with the expectation that they're going to be given the job for the full year pending injury?

Just saw the numbers on the Brissett contract are basically identical to what we gave Dalton, same guarantee but on a 1 year deal, which is more or less what the Dalton deal is anyways, we just did 2 years to spread out the cap hit. Makes me again think this means we're NOT taking Richardson, as any team that takes him, won't be starting him Week 1. If we already knew we needed a Week 1 starter, that would have been Brissett over Dalton, both a better player and also familiar with Reich and his system. Tells me that we signed Dalton purely as a backup and not a Week 1 starter. Means the pick has to be Stroud or Young and they already know that.

I'm not sure it says he doesn't love football as much as saying he just isn't a hard worker. Maybe there is something else going on that will come out, like an injury, but he has had a couple months to get into the best shape of his life for the most important job interview he'll ever have. He could still love football, but if he couldn't work hard for 2-3 months to be ready for today, that to me is more of a work ethic situation, but who knows.

I get that, the film will pop, but for someone who was already dealing with a massive amount of red flags, him putting on that much weight in the last 2 weeks and not being ready for his Pro Day is about as bad of a sign as it gets for a player. Even playoff teams might not want him because they just don't think he has the right mentality to be an NFL player, that's laziness to a supreme level. I'm guessing there are at least a dozen or so teams that completely took him off their draft board today and wouldn't touch him no matter how far he falls.

Don't really want Campbell, feels like the interest is more based on Reich's connection to him than his actual skill. At this point, I'm hoping we trade for a WR, not much great left out there in FA and we need someone who can be a #1 for the rookie. Go get Hopkins, Sutton, Jeudy, Cooks, or someone similar to them.

I wouldn't take him if he fell to our 3rd rounder, he's 100% off my draft board now. If you can't be in good enough shape at your Pro Day to even finish the drills, then you aren't going to last in the NFL, he clearly doesn't have the right mindset that you want in a player. It would be one thing if he just didn't put up good numbers, but he put on 9 lbs in the last 2 weeks and couldn't finish his drills. He wants to be an NFL player, today was the most important job interview he'll ever have in his life, and he couldn't be bothered to be in shape for it. You really want to use a draft pick that would get us a possible starter on someone like that? Very very very very hard pass, this is a player who won't get a second contract in the league I have a feeling.

He'd actually only be on the books for about $19 million this year, which isn't terrible, he's just a bigger cap hit to the Cardinals due to the signing bonus still being part of his cap for them, which doesn't transfer to the new team in a trade. If you sign him to a 2-3 year extension, they could bring that down to probably around $10 million this year as his cap hit I'm guessing.

I don't think he has much of a choice, I don't think there are many teams with the cap space left to give out big TE contracts at the moment. If the top WR's in this FA class so far are getting $11 million a year, are you really giving that much up for Gesicki? No chance He's gonna get around $7 million a year in the end

Wow, that's way too much money for a middling TE in Hurst. Easily could have gotten Gesicki for that number, I'd have been willing to pay a little more to get Schultz too, this feels like an overpay instead of using that money towards a WR or something. Not a fan of this one

He may want to, but that tweet said him and the Lions are far apart, not sure how someone who should be a fairly cheap contract is far apart with a team that would like to keep him unless he’s expecting too much

He’s loved in Detroit and wants to stay if possible, if they’re far apart on a deal, for someone who really shouldn’t be getting crazy money, tells me he wants way more than we can afford on an RB I’d think.

I think this means Richardson is less likely If Richardson was the guy, I think we'd have signed Brissett as he'd be better than Dalton to start while Richardson sits and learns. That combined with Brissett being familiar with Reich, he would have made too much sense if we were drafting Richardson. I think this just signaled Stroud or Young.

Look at it this way, based on those numbers, we just traded Elflein for Dalton, worth it

Love it, was my #1 option to back up the rookie

Not really though, Lance still could be that "guy" but he never was going to be that player in his first couple years, he was always going to be a project in the same way Richardson will be, which is why they kept Jimmy G around. Lance was never going to be the starter as a rookie, if they had been able to draft Young last year, they'd have traded Jimmy G immediately and Young would have been their week 1 starter, guaranteed.

The 49ers just wasted 2 years of prime SB contention because of trading up to take a similar prospect to Richardson with Lance. If they had taken someone like Young, they probably win the SB one of these past two years.

I said it in another post the other day, but Foles is my guy right after them. But as I said then, part of that is that I'm an Arizona alum and us signing Foles would put me over the moon. If we stay at #1 and then sign Foles to be his backup, I think I'd be the first person to ever be a fan of a team who just drafted a QB at #1 overall and then goes out and buys a custom authentic jersey of the newly signed backup QB, LOL.

Actually if we had a 49ers or Eagles roster, I'd say Young would be the choice. Better suited for an immediate 3 year window, where his size and injury risk because of it is a bit mitigated. I'm not really worried about Young making it through a couple seasons, I'm worried about him being healthy into that 2nd and 3rd contract, to be a long term franchise QB. I think Stroud fits our roster perfectly from that sense. We're still a couple years away from being able to actually contend for a championship, so let Stroud grow the next few years while we are a borderline playoff team, and then when the rest of the team is in place, he's hitting his stride and we can contend for a SB.

No, Minshew is absolutely not the right guy for that role, he still thinks he can be a starter in this league, just look at how it went with him and Lawrence last year in Jacksonville. You need a guy like Dalton or Two Gloves, who realizes his career is waning down and knows nobody is giving him a starting role right now outside of injury. You need "a pro's pro" in that position, someone the rookie will come in and from day 1 have respect for him and what he's done in his career and be a sponge to soak up everything the has to say. Dalton, Two Gloves, Brissett are the top 3 guys I want in this role.

The Cardinals tried to put a film study requirement into Kyler's contract because he spends too much of his time playing video games. The Jets let Wilson do whatever the hell he wants and it ruined his reputation in the locker room and have seemingly already screwed up their #2 pick in the draft. And those are just 2 recent examples of top draft picks who can't seem to figure out how to go about their business in a professional manner. It seems obvious for grown adults who have had jobs for years about how these kids should be able to do it right, especially when they get paid what they do. But you seem to forget that they're still 21 year old kids who just got paid tens of millions of dollars and are the face of multi-billion dollar organizations. It's not something a few years in college prepares you for, even for the best of prospects.