Mr Mojo Risin

Sure but can you at least answer the question I posed to you though? Which team's QB has less to work with than Bryce currently does?

It's not that pieces need to be perfect for Bryce to succeed. They just need to not be the worst in the NFL. Look around the league and as a collective who has a worse running game oline and WR group as we do? We don't have a Cam Newton ready to throw to a bunch of JAGs his entire career. We have a QB who is much better in the short to mid game and he needs the weapons to mirror that. Why is it such an asinine thought that Bryce's downfield passing game will get better as the pieces around him get better?

Ok but at the end of the day what's that have to do with Bryce? Was it Bryce Young saying those things? That's what I'm getting at. Fans want to take it out on Bryce and hold that against him when none of that garbage was his fault. The anger is misplaced when it comes to where he's at in his development. It sucks to have to have patience because all we've done is lose the last 5 years with nothing to look forward too. It's definitely worrisome that we are 0-5 probably 0-6 going into the bye, but that speaks more to the coaching staff than it does to our undersized rookie QB. There are plenty of examples of young QBs struggling early, even former #1 overall picks. There are examples of young QBs balling out early even former #1 overall picks. No two situations are the same and unfortunately this offense just isn't the best to drop a rookie #1 pick into it and expect instant success. Oline has struggled, no running game, and historically slow WRs not getting much separation. Doesn't sound like we are setting him up for success.

But that's the whole point. Aren't guys built like Cam Newton suppose to show out early because of their athleticism and more favorable measurables? Bryce doesn't have that to rely on he has everything working against him when it comes to his "physical limitations" so why would we expect him to come into the NFL and set the world on fire right away? Especially with this supporting cast. Just because he isn't dominating doesn't mean he doesn't have any traits, or an NFL arm, or isn't as smart as advertised. He just needs time. He needs exactly what he's getting now. Real NFL action against real NFL defenses. Being smart and a more cerebral person doesn't always mean you are out smarting and out playing people from day 1. It means he has the ability to learn and adapt to his environment and once it finally starts to click for him it will begin to translate onto the field. I truly believe Bryce just needs some time and more experience and he will be just fine.

Have you ever read a gameday thread? It's definitely more than 2%.

Making up a route on the fly in the huddle? Through the first 5 weeks? Yes mrcompletely11 I do

That's true he did but he did it one time out of how many snaps in 5 games? That's great he was able to do that and execute it for a TD but lets not act like this is what he's been doing since the first game and every snap thereafter. It was one play.

If we landed Lawrence this fan base would have poo all over him for his rookie year. He went 3-14 had 12 tds and 17 ints with virtually the same weapons Bryce has now. He also started 0-5 with his 1st win coming in week 6 against who? IF you guessed the Dolphins you'd be correct! Maybe it's a sign that a major upset is on the horizon

You called this pass at 1:57 a wounded duck floater? I hope you're joking even though I know you're not. You continue to prove you actually dont know poo about football and one of the worst posters on this entire message board if that was the pass you referenced as a wounded duck floater. It was a spiral that would have hit Thielen in the face 20 yards downfield. Lol.

Congrats on being the best rookie QB 5 games into the season....? Was that the competition? 5 games? Lol

So far nothing really of note. It all looks bad and it's being magnified by the losses piling up. Jury is still out on a lot of the picks though we won't really know the damage until another year or two

Totally agree. I'm all for giving a new regime time to get their legs under them. Even if that costs us some games, but eventually you hope to see improvement and every game there is something incredibly odd/wrong that happens, like stuff youd see under Matt Rhule and his inexperiencedcollege staff. We don't have a fluid operation. It could also be that we have too many chefs in the kitchen. Reich has always preached about this being a collaborative effort. We brought in all of these "smart and experienced" coaches but nothing seems organized. Idk hopefully they figure it out soon. Maybe this is the week they are able to put it all together and we have the upset of the year vs the Dolphins. Probably not, but I can at least dream of it happening And tbh...the thing with Fitt is that he gambles big. And if those moves pay off you come out looking like the cats pajamas, but the other side of that is you also end up looking like a fool if it blows up in your face and unfortunately nothing but the latter has happened so far on almost every move he's made. Jury is still out on a lot of them though. 12 games left. Hopefully we see some improvement

The only drive you can see them playing prevent was the final drive in the 4th. The one before that they were in the same defense. Still playing press man and blitzing and Bryce led us down the field for a TD.

This. But I still appreciate the effort. However, I enjoy listening to the arm chair GM hot takes they think they know everything it's quite hilarious

There is no shame in taking a step back or a break for awhile. Step away and come back if this team ever starts to win again. Winning cures all. I hope you and the misses get to go the cowboys game and I wish you both many more years of health and happiness. Good luck.

So the QBs that have those measurables and still struggle their first year. What's the excuse then?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4360310/type/nfl/year/2021

Same.

Unfortunately every fanbase has a bunch of mrcompletely11's running around. There's not much you can do but laugh at them

I understand believe me. Being 0-5 through the first 5 weeks is not a good look no matter who the coach is. I really do think they need more time though. If Rhule got to year 3 I think Reich certainly makes it to year 2 but beyond that will be a question to how we end this year and start next year. If we come out winless through this first few weeks next year I will be fully on board for a reset and I don't think anyone in the NFL would blame us. I just don't see any major changes happening this season. I could be wrong though we'll just have to see

Unfortunately these aren't "real jobs" we are talking about here. The owners invest MILLIONS into these guys. They aren't going to give up on them through 5 weeks into the regular season in their first year no matter how emotional this fan base gets. No one is going to want to come coach here and no free agent is going to sign here if that's how you choose to run your team. Give them time to figure it out that is literally the only option.

So we hire a new coach and GM come out and lose 2 or 3 games to start the season next year what do you do? Fire them as well? Keep firing coaches until one finally has a hot start? I don't think moving on from Reich or even Fitt this season is a realistic option. Next season though? And we still look like this? Absolutely.

4* games

I see a lot of Clausen comparisons from posters yet I've never seen Clausen have that type of game against ANY defense prevent or not. So which is it? Is he a Clausen clone or a garbage time stat padder? He can't be both. Today was a rough day for most of it. Those interceptions sucked. They were pretty terrible decisions no ifs ands or buts about it. I expect to see some of those kind of plays time to time from our rookie QB. But to the people complaining about garbage time stats you wouldn't waste anytime flaming Bryce if he threw more INTs and had multiple 3 and outs during "garbage time" in today's game so your opinions are exactly that, garbage. I give credit to Bryce for continuing to battle through adversity even when the game isn't close. Hopefully this will give him something to build off of in future weeks.

Honestly he's been the most disappointing player so far on the team. I get our oline hasn't been very good but the dude doesn't see the gapping holes even when they are there. Rarely do I see him break a tackle and he just doesn't have any explosiveness. The difference between him Laviska and even Chubba at this point is night an day. That's a pretty big miss for us.