Mr Mojo Risin

I mean the entire Texans organization deserves credit it's not all Stroud. Stroud is a big part of it sure but their success has been the marriage of the front office and football operations all being on the same page and being able to identify players that fit their scheme to put their franchise QB in a place where he can have success. It's what all the good organizations do. We haven't been able to find that recipe and it shows. It isn't all on just 1 person. How many times is Stroud throwing to a wide open receiver? A lot of it does have to do with the scheme they run. Bryce had wide open throws yesterday that he didn't really have year 1 and he missed them and that's the difference. Stroud probably has a good year if he was on our team this year. Last year though? I think he struggles, maybe not as bad as Bryce but he definitely wouldn't have been as good year 1 like he was with the Texans

Nico Collins and Tank Dell are better than any WR we've had here since DJ Moore. Cool Nico didn't do much before Stroud, that doesn't take away that his skill set fit that offense to a T. Adam Thielen hadn't had a 1,000 yard season in 4 seasons before he played with Bryce. So it doesn't matter. Then they doubled down on that success by adding Mixon and Steffon Diggs which is again way more than the Panthers gave their QBs. That is why I brought up the Texans.

There's nothing die hard about my support for Bryce. It's a thing called logic. An undersized rookie QB was in an impossible situation last year. He also happened to play for my favorite team. Look around the league and how teams surround their young QBs with playmakers. The Bears, Texans, Bengals, Titans, Jaguars are all examples of how to build around your QB. The Panthers are the only ones to take weapons away from theirs. Also the scheme was old and outdated and changed multiple times. With a better supporting cast and a better scheme there was reason to believe Young could at least be a decent QB. Unfortunately he isn't and now we're all fuged for yet another season if that gets you bozos off then have at it, enjoy your Sundays!

I mean go ahead and celebrate about being right that Young is dog sh*t and this team is going to suck for yet another season. What an amazing thing to be right about lol. Unfortunately it isn't going to make your Sundays anymore fun, sorry about that.

Always heard Carolina was a great place to retire. Seems like that's all we do these days. Coaches and players alike

Yea unfortunately I'm in the same boat. There's no more excuses after last year. I think he gets a few more games before the rug is pulled out from under him. You have to wonder just how much Canales is tied to Bryce. I'm sure he was hired to "fix" him or at least make him serviceable. I wonder if Canales even has the freedom to bench him. I have a feeling Tepper is still meddling behind the scenes

We've been fortunate to have some great off ball LBers in our day. Morgan, Na'il Diggs, Sam Mills, Witherspoon, Beason, Davis, James Anderson, Kuechly, and Thompson. Shaq definitely belongs in that list albeit more towards the bottom of it

There were people openly questioning whether this team could compete at a college level last season (some still do). The starters looking like they did against NFL back ups should have all of the doubters feeling like a little kid on Christmas morning.

There's a reason it takes 2-3 seasons to judge a draft class. Still too early for last years class and it damn sure is still way too early for our most recent one.

This is also what we said last year. Just take a quick peak around the NFL and see how many teams would you rather take our skill position players over theirs (WR, TE, RB). Just as much as the Panthers have yet to find a QB successor to Cam Newton they've also failed to learn how to build around a young QB because I'd trade with just about every team in the league except for maybe a small few.

I live in Indiana and heard about the same but was hoping they didnt know what they were talking about. Turns out they did!

1st + some and id consider it

There is definitely some truth to what you say but Bryce was not the main reason of discord within the offensive coaching staff. Everything was thrown together without a real clue or concrete plan in place including the selection of Young. I think our offense will be better just on the fact that they will be more aligned on what its going to take to be successful on offense with the players we have versus the "throw it at the wall and see if it sticks approach" we had last year. I dont think well be top 10 but at least watchable and in more games than we were last year forsure.

Lmao. What about the fact that NONE of the coaches on offense had any connection between them when they were hired? Despite being an all star staff none of them ever really coached with one another and they all came from different football backgrounds. Could it be they just couldn't all get on the same page as to how to develop a rookie QB? Or what type of offensive philosophy/plays to run? Let's not continue to act like Bryce was in a good situation last year and he let the team down. The only way we were going to be successful on offense last season was if Bryce came in and played like a one man wrecking crew and that was not the type of player he was touted to be coming out of college. Those that think Stroud would have come onto this team with the lack of weapons and a depleted struggling oline with too many "cooks" in the kitchen and had the year he had last year with the Texans are kidding yourselves.

I mean you kind of answered yourself. Panthers starters played last preseason and how much difference did it make? Still the worst team in football. Maybe preseason doesn't matter. If you're going to be terrible you're going to be terrible nothing about running vanilla schemes and half ass game plans in the preseason for 20 total plays is going to make any sort of difference

Prayers up for Mr. Scot hoping everything works out in his favor

He was frustrated he fell and didn't get more yardage. Wasn't a celebration.

I feel like some of that is just poor communication from the oline overall. Not saying I haven't seen him whiff his share of pass pro but the times he has a guy lined up over him and he chooses to go after someone else tells me the oline isn't communicating the protections properly. They were also very poor at handling stunts

He beat him in a head to head matchup. I think that would count as something he does better

I've just never seen an oline look so confused before. They legit ll block the wrong people it's not even about poor technique or them getting overwhelmed from a physical standpoint. They legit just don't know who to block and let people lined up in front of them run right to the QB without even a hand on them I've never seen this happen so many times to an NFL offense it's ridiculous

Honestly whoever can call out the protections and stop all these free runs to the QB. The amount of times it happened last year and the amount it's already happening in TC they have to know that it's a problem and something has to change, or whatever their plan is needs to start working ASAP or I doubt Bryce survives the season whether we want him to or not.

Looks like it's a bit late but if you watch when he throws it he does throw it as he hits his break but seems to Aim it towards the pylon maybe that was the drill? Hard telling.

Whoever is calling out the.protections is fuging up that's why. Whether it's Corbett or Bryce. That's a 5 man rush everyone should have a man and that's not at all what happens. Corbett tries to DT with the RG when he should be responsible for Josey blitzing. The LG should have the guy Ickey blocks and Ickey should have the guy on the end of the LoS. Same issues as last season so maybe it is Bryce. If I got sacked 62 times last year that would be the #1 thing I'd want to work on and master is the protection. The free runners to the QB has to stop I've never seen that happen to an NFL offense so many times before

@mrcompletely11Listen to what you're saying. The preseason matters but not for predicting what a teams win/loss record will be and whether they will be a good team or not. It's for evaluating depth and getting certain looks at your team but for the most part it is extremely vanilla. You want to judge a 17 game season on 6 or 7 offensive series during 3 preseason games. Potato. That doesn't make any sense. Is it a 200 IQ prediction to predict that the 32/32 offense from last season might also suck this year? Yea it is quite possible but you aren't going to get that information from less than 4 quarters of play during 3 preseason games in which the game plans will be mostly vanilla.

Unfortunately he's probably sacked by Josey if that were live. Oline still giving up a ton of pressure up tje middle. That will 100% kill this offense if it's a consistent issue like last year