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For those of you who are Tankers, you should know that the gurus in Vegas have the Panthers finishing the season with a record of 5-12 or 6-11--with a lean toward 6 wins. Carolina Panthers: Over/Under 5.5 (-130) The Panthers (5.5 wins) are 0-5 on the road this season but have won three straight home games under interim HC Steve Wilks. They’re getting +120 odds at Caesars to finish with five wins or fewer. (which to me, indicates that the odds of winning 6 games is slightly higher than 5) https://www.thelines.com/odds/nfl-win-totals/ With the Panthers' current over/under at 5.5 they sit in the 29th best position entering this week--meaning if this were the draft order, they would pick 3rd. The Panthers have 2 winnable home games, however, and they have been winning at home under Wilkes. Pittsburgh and Detroit. They play at Seattle on December 11, and then after 2 home games, finish the year on the road with games at Tampa and New Orleans. Just FYI

Any success Rhule had in college was based on his ability to BS 18-year old kids. In the pros, that is not a recipe for success.

Then bend over.

Dang. I was betting "cremation" with 10:1 odds.

Zapped away that mole scar on his cheek and his hairline returned to his forehead. It must be true.

I have tried my best to pick college QBs who will succeed in the NFL. I am usually wrong, but comforted by the fact that the GMs are too. For people to pretend to know how good or bad this guy will be only demonstrates how well they package something they have no idea about into the perception of knowledge. I firmly believe there are so many variables, QB should be the last piece you add. Our offense is there, for the most part. We need a TE and maybe another RB and WR. We need a good QB coach, good D, and a head coach who understands game situations in relation to the QBs developmental level. We need an OC who tailors an offense to the QBs' strengths. We need patience.

A lot of coaches' value is inflated because he had a good QB.

I am Danny Divito--the guy in the red M shirt. The green vehicle represents the last 5 years. Get it? It is a metaphor.

Of course they did- but watch TV on National Signing day and count the Alabamas and Ohio States. If you have better players, it makes the QB better--not debatable. So you are saying, 'Since Oregon and LSU had good players too..." The difference is slight, but there is a difference. Are you saying that Oregon and LSU have equal or better teams than Alabama, OSU, and Georgia? I am just saying that you'd think the best schools would produce the best QBs--but when you see them play in perfect conditions with the advantage. How did Stroud do when he fell behind vs. Michigan? He was not used to that. OSU was favored by a TD, and they had no answers. He was not used to playing from behind. He was not used to facing a D with their ears pinned back. He had a good game--don't get me wrong--but he also had 2 picks. I hope you are right. We need a good young QB--my point is simply buyer beware if you are shopping for an OSU qb. They are used to ideal conditions.

It is sort of a Chicken or Egg thing--the school recruits a player that best fits their system--not always a good fit for the NFL--but the NFL is starting to adapt. If a school has top QB talent and they are drafted early every year and they all bust, there is a reason that these players' stock is high--I mean, give me the OSU stable of RBs and WRs--the OL--the fact that every game you are 10+ point favorites--perfect conditions. It is a good argument--but you are not measuring the school, you are measuring the variables in which that player performs.

Burrow went to LSU when he could not beat out Haskins and won a title. Josh Allen is from Wyoming. Lamarr Jackson? Louisville. Jones? Duke. There are some Bama QBs starting to make some noise, but not as much noise as one might expect.

Personally, I think there should be a "buyer beware" tag on any QB from Bama, Clemson (until recently), Georgia, Ohio State etc. because they have the better players around them. They rarely play from behind. They have WRs who get open and make plays. They are auditioning in ideal circumstances in which they have all the advantages.

Don't sell yourself short. That is a damn nice keyboard. I agree with this. and even though these QBs are scouted, interviewed, weighed and measured in workouts/combine/pro day, etc. most first round QBs bust.

OK, but that school had Joe Burrow, and decided to go with Haskins. That is the school, not the player. The reason? Burrow did not fit their system as well. If an elite NFL QB does not fit the system, then the school is recruiting for their system and that does not necessarily equate to an ideal NFL QB--that is the school and the kind of players that school recruits. OSU usually has the better OL, the better WRs, TEs, and the better Defense. I would say that is true 10 games a season. There may not be a better system in which to play QB--maybe Alabama or Georgia compares. And are we really going to measure a player on 5 games--but I agree that Fields is starting to show that he has broken the OSU curse.

Ohio State has been a great program under 4 different coaches over the past 20 years or so. Name their best NFL QB ever. I'll wait over here.

The Patriots, Steelers, Vikings, Bills, and Cowboys, for example, are all associated with white people--and they all wear their white jerseys. The Chiefs wear red. The Browns wear brown. You may be onto something! Except a seahawk is not blue and optic green, and a falcon is not red and black, and an Eagle is not green. I am so confused--birds must be exempt.

I am a Gamecock fan and I have heard that his teammates are not fond of him--and I read that has been the case since high school. he melts down at least once per game. Not interested.

Geno Smith was a bust. Remember? Some times, it takes time.

Sam has had an opportunity to learn for a year. He now has an OL. Get him a TE threat, and he could be good. Let's watch the rest of the season with an open mind. I am not optimistic, but the Broncos have a good defense.

Punt on first down. Our defense has a better chance of scoring.

This is taking me back to my prom.

With polished chrome wheels and white letter tires.

This is like having a big date and you have three cars in the driveway: an AMC Gremlin, a Ford Pinto, and a Pontiac Aztec. Which one to you wash and wax and hang around the rearview mirror the fuzzy dice that smell like wild berries?

I doubt any of our qbs will be on an NFL roster next season--except for Corral.