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How would you build the roster and draft?
Soul Rebel replied to BeenPounding's topic in Carolina Panthers
Here me out. IF the Panthers think they can get "there QB1" at 2 and can swap spots with HOU, while gaining the Texans' #33 overall.....I'd send #39 to DEN for Jerry Jeudy. Give our new young QB1 a 23-year old former FRP that is an immaculate route runner with deceptive speed. We would move up 6 spots in the draft to take whomever we want. Maybe Darnell Washigton or Michael Mayer are there.....maybe a stud NT or a complimentary WR like Downs/Flowers/Hyatt/Tillman. We could reallocate the money we were going to spend on a FA WR and shift it to someone like Schultz or Geisicki. Re-sign Foreman CJ7 Foreman Jeudy-Downs-TMJ-Shenault Schultz-Tremble Ickey-BC-Boze-Corbett-Moton The defense is, IMO, a couple of DL and depth CBs away from being complete. I think Evero and Capers will help bring Brandon Smith along and eventually replace Shaq inside in 2024. Chinn pulls a TD and converts to LB fully, and we find a third CB. Woods-Bell will be solid for the next two years as well holding up the backend. Our cap opens up immensely in '24 as well. -
Yeah, good for him getting his paper. Great signing for a guy his age and should thrive in DEN....though he would've dominated here in Evero's system. Haha.
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Done. He's still young enough and could be in one of those situations where he just needs the burn in a system that understands his strengths/weaknesses. I think Brown can do that with his background with TEs.
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I'm hoping the Boze $$ numbers thrown out are negotiations. They ask for $16M, we offer $11M....settle for $13.5-$14M. Done. Our cap opens up next year anyway. Gotta keep the OL intact and Elflien ain't it with a rookie QB and a rebuilding WR/TE corps.
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Burns-Shaq-Luvu-Chinn Brown-Khalen Saunders-YGM I think Brandon Smith, as LG mentioned is going to thrive in Evero's defense. He's still a year away from major contributions....just in time for Shaq's contract to expire in '24 and take over next to Luvu. I do like Okereke, but think we reallocate that money on WR/TE.
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Well, he'll get an additional bit of coin too when CJ comes in and asks for #7. Win-win-win all around.
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Let's rip this band-aid off. Let the dead cap fall off after this year and have a clean sheet in '24. No need to hold onto an older vet LB that doesn't fit and is costly. Also opens up $11M in cap space this year. That's your Bozeman money right there.
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I'd trade with HOU and ask for 33. We can send back a day 3 pick to balance out the value. 33: Best TE on the board 39: Tillman/Perry/Flowers/Downs Sign Boze and D'Onta & Hardman. No way they are giving us 12 or a future FRP for one slot.
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So then, we’ve got a WR corps to build. What do y’all got?
Soul Rebel replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think we can patchwork our WR corps sans a true X WR this coming year. Hardman turns 25 on March 12th, so he's uber young and electric. Don't think he's a WR1, but can certainly be that TY Hilton....maybe a less productive Tyreek Hill as our #2. His help on special teams will be huge too. Let TMJ be our slot WR3. Young and hungry guys. -
Before the draft, we address free agency
Soul Rebel replied to bobcat91's topic in Carolina Panthers
Boze Foreman Hardman Moreau Draft Tillman or AT Perry for that big WR -
So then, we’ve got a WR corps to build. What do y’all got?
Soul Rebel replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
In the draft, Tillman, AT Perry look like good outside WRs. Downs would be a solid get too. In FA, we've been linked to Hardman and Campbell. Chark is out there, as well as Jourdan Rodrique mentioning Van Jefferson as a potential trade target. Van has ties to both Brown and WR coach Jefferson. I'd also bring in a TE like Moreau and draft the BPA TE at 39. I'm not freaking out this year because I think the plan is clear now to let '23 be the "reset" year. New coaches, rookie QB and dead cap to fall off. Clean up the mistakes in '23 and walk into '24 with a clean sheet. No need plunking down cash on older vets like Nuke and OBJ at their respective ages. Hardman is 24 years old.....Campbell is 25.....Jefferson is 26. Focus on 2024. We will have a boatload of cash available to be key players in FA. Draft smart this year and don't weigh ourselves down. -
This is intriguing....surely speculation, but what if. Get a little bit back from HOU to make sure they get "there guy" while we still get ours. No guarantee that HOU doesn't just take who they want, but if they REALLY want Young and we bluff it enough, they could take the bait.
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Loved the trade for the Jets last year, but don't know why he didn't get more burn. He wouldn't be my top choice, but wouldn't be disappointed if we ended up with him. Pair him with a bigger back like Charbonet or Roschon Johnson in the draft and we could be cooking with fire.
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Agreed. I don't advocate for giving up this kind of haul, but we won't be in this situation sitting in the top-10 for awhile. We've hit the reset button on 90% of the coaching staff, philosophy, style and scheme. Why not push our chips forward, go all-in and get Stroud/Young. Couldn't blame a new coaching staff that has no QB for doing this. We would have to give up more assets next year to move into the Williams/Maye/Penix conversation next year. Rip off the band-aid this year.
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Unsure what his $$ expectations and if his football IQ is enough for Reich/Brown/Special Ops guy, but he might be available this coming week. I'm guessing too rich for our blood, he wouldn't fit a Reich-style QB and probably looking to be a long-term starter somewhere.
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Any idea what Foster Moreau will get on the FA market? Josh Norris intrigued me with his thoughts on him and spent the last hour checking him out. 26 years old, put up 5 TDs his rookie year and was behind Waller in Vegas. I wonder if he can be a TE1 here in Reich's system. Seems like a balanced TE that can block as well as be a threat as a receiver. Can he be had on a reasonable deal and let others spend big on Schultz and Geisicki.
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I went down a Wentz rabbit hole when looking to see if he is similar to Levis. Found a great Peter King conversation that said after watching Foles win the ring that he set them up for, it really got under Wentz' skin. Wentz got them to 11-2 in his second year....with Reich as OC and Staley as RB coach. King went on to say that Wentz couldn't shake the Foles optics and began his mental breakdown. That along with the injuries, and he was never the same. So much of it is between the ears. Wentz was well on his way to being a perennial MVP candidate and leading his team to the postseason. How quickly things can shift.
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Given the age and hopeful addition of a young TE, I'd prefer Campbell or Slayton. I know we're also rumored for Hardman which I don't get other than ST. He'd be a WR3 here and seems to replicate a lot of what Laviska is good at.
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When I watch this clip of Wentz being drafted, it reminds me of the highlights of what makes Levis good. Almost verbatim for the out route throws and arm strength lighting up the field. Nearly identical collegiate stats both passing and rushing, though Levis turned it over more. https://youtu.be/WxBFpdue58A
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Does anyone also know why Levis transferred from Penn St to Kentucky? Was it that he couldn't beat out the previous QB1 or did he prefer to play in the SEC? I just feel that Penn St. would give you more exposure and props than UK would.
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For me, I think AR looked better last year in the same conference and is 2 years younger. I don't like Levis' feel for the pocket and his mechanics/feet need some clean up. I do see a lot of Wentz in Levis, so if Levis can play up to pre-injury Wentz, then we will be fine. Levis does seem like a Tepper (cockiness/confidence) and Reich (prototypical body and arm) kind of QB1. If we take Levis, I'll come around at some point and hope he does become pre-injury Wentz or Allen, and not Gabbert or Locker. QBs often have success in certain systems and with certain coaching staffs...let's hope if he is the choice, that this is the correct system for him to learn and thrive. Levis is my #4 and I put he and Hooker in the same tier...but that's just me.
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This or Zach Allen would be HUGE! I saw that Jones is going to get silly paid though....like $18M IIRC. I'm still driving the Khalen Saunders hidden gem bandwagon this FA. Would give us a young 3-4 DT with experience in a winning program and a lot cheaper.
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I trust Kunkel about as much as NFLRumors. How the hell anyone can look at the tape, stats and the combine workouts and put a gap betwen Levis and Stroud that favors Levis is full of poo. You're drafting Levis based on a coaching staff correcting footwork and mechanics and tapping into his physical prowess and upside....at 25 years old.
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To be fair, the dots being connected are pretty easy to align here. I hope Brissett is the bridge guy. We would've made the playoffs with him last year at QB and he will be able to run Reich's system, while mentoring the youngster.