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I don't believe he has Ginn type world class speed, but Smith-Marsette is supposed to be a burner. Maybe he'll get a shot down the line.

It literally looked like the timing from old Saints teams. I was like if this is the level they want to operate at, then its going to take time. The comeback route misses at end of first half were an indication that these guys have to get more reps together. The downfield misses seemed like they just haven't been on the field together enough.

The whole Bates super day was because he was guessing right and our personnel. You can see up top that the WR didn't have any real separation. If that is say Tyreek Hill, Bates is out of position and that is an easy touchdown over the top. He knew he could sit on routes in the middle of the field all day, talent wise we had no answer, and Bryce has never not played with talent before that couldn't run off safety help. The guys he played with in college, no safety dare come off over the top help to jump middle of the field routes.

Lingering injury issues were/are definitely a problem, but our problem yesterday was the turnovers. 17pts off three turnovers. Two of those turnovers and the turnover on downs in first quarter came during or at the end of well orchestrated drives. They just have to clean some of that crap up!

Yeah, he'll be fine. Normally when you do that too its because your team is so devoid of talent that he would just get obliterated. Bryce has time to throw and these are just processing issues. Most of these kids are far too professional and polished these days for interceptions to kill their confidence say the way being pummeled behind a trash o-line killed say David Carr. One of the announcers said it best, P. Manning threw 28ints his rookie year and he was one of the best processors to put on a helmet. Also, a lot of Bryce's misses yesterday were timing issues that will get better with reps with these WRs. Hell, the two over throws yesterday one to Marshall and one to Mingo would've been easy pitch and catch to some of the guys he played with at Alabama.

Things are definitely different. Had friends where we would get up every Sunday to watch and analyze/cheer for every snap. We missed only like three games in Cam/Luke era. Before that, I watched every game even getting mentally upset if I missed a snap. In 02-03 season I had a friend show up to my SB party with a Patriots knit hat on and I made him drive 2 hours back home. Don't talk to that dude till this day and we were best friends in highschool. It was that serious! SB 50 and the following opening season crap! Drafting KB over Devante Adams and then him quitting on route in Chargers game in 17, the refs not calling the CB down, and Cam injuring his shoulder trying to make tackle were subtle punches to the gut. The Rhule/Cam debacle, Luke retiring because of how bad the Rhule hire was just deflated me. I seen Chad Pennington who already had a noodle arm hurt his shoulder and get two more jobs. Then to see Cam being explained away as done when he ran for more TDs in his MVP year than Teddy Two Gloves has ever thrown in his best season while our GM paid Teddy 60% of Cam's best contract was horseshite. I've said all that to say, I watch games, hope for them to be competent, but no real fervor.

Questioning effort when you don't know the play call or design is nonsense. Burns is a 3-4 linebacker now and not just a hand in the dirt defensive end. There were a couple of plays where he backed off tackle and obviously stood in a zone while a player blitzed up top. One play was a delayed stunt as the end kicked outside and Burns looped in behind him. These are sometimes the assignments in a 3-4. Find another player's effort to question, cause Burns wasn't the guy today.

Definitely bringing in all of those bum former players and "brand" guys are why we are devoid of depth for sure. I remember looking at final cuts a couple of weeks ago and was like wow they got rid of all of his guys that were even close to the fringe.

And on top of his potential, he is a locker room and coaches' dream. He is a quiet lead by example guy who works and goes home. Have people forgotten how volatile Hardy was and the black eye of several of our wilder players over the years?

All they heard and continue to hear was 1st round picks. You getting too deep for them.

That's why I was laughing last week when people were saying Saints were a lock to win the conference because they had the easiest SOS and Derek Carr. I was like based on what last year and D. Carr couldn't get it done with a smorgasbord of talent in Vegas.

Man I still can't believe the nose dive that show took at the end. What a scene!

Didn't Justyn Ross really jump off the page and excite them recently? That could've been a deciding factor or part of the process. I remember having a Chiefs preseason game on in the background and their local announcers couldn't say his name enough. I hadn't heard his name since Clemson was an unquestioned juggernaut.

Couldn't have said it better! Life came at him fast! But also, get some Jones! This is for that time Cam was walking in to the endzone and he hit him with the cheap shot. He would've never done that to Brady or Rodgers!

He still would've brought us our first Championship if he had the right GM. One thing about Fitts is that he does listen to OCs and position coaches. If Gettleman wouldn't have been trying to build a damn basketball team, listened to one of the greatest WRs/Coach to do it in Ricky Proehl, and drafted D. Adams instead of Kelvin as well as S. Diggs intead of trading up for Funchess: It literally would've been Christmas all year long in 15 season! Rant over!

Please let us not need Dalton for anything except for on what to tell Bryce not to do!

That's what I was worried about. It is much easier to slide on real grass than this new super turf and when he started his slide I jumped thinking please don't let him get caught in this turf!

And like G-reg, this guy is being grossly underutilized. I'd start with a 6th and begrudgingly move up.

Yeah, he is the guy you always see break free and chase the QB when there is really good downfield coverage. But that explosive, beat the guy in front of him and blast the QB type play still hasn't been put on tape. I wonder how long he lasts.

Brady has struggled in preseason, but I hope that is due to lack of scheming and gameplanning. The scary issue is that he was owned so much in Jets joint practice and Giants game.

They have to come up with a laughing emoticon, cause I was dying over here! Dude is indeed limited!

Exactly, you have undrafted rookie and second year players with a new system they are learning play against a QB that took a team to the playoffs. He probably would've taken another if the team doctor didn't puncture his lung during a routine shot. Wilson was a top pick and had practiced against them earlier in the week. This team has young players who need to be evaluated so they can make the right cuts/moves. That evaluation is more important than preseason wins.

Nah, they're QB can protect himself after interceptions and fumbles without being ridiculed or villainized like Cam. They have invested in their o-line as well. That closed our window. But yes, adding another weapon like Taylor to the stockpile would definitely take even more pressure off of Allen.

The gadget plays yes, but I was alluding more to growth as a route runner. He's look kind of lost so far and seemingly can't separate.