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You're entitled to your opinion on the subject the same as I am. Under the best evaluation we have a rookie learning the ropes with very little help, unless you believe Bryce is playing to his ceiling already. My personal evaluation is that I'm encouraged by his improvement each week and look forward to seeing more of it. He is still a work in process. I think under any evaluation listing QB issues as an area that needs to improve is fair. Perhaps you didn't appreciate the wording.

We’re a bad team with a rookie QB who just won with 15 points against a Texans team that tied for the worst record in football last year and is also starting a rookie qb. We rushed for 44 yards and gave up six sacks. It’s an absolute miracle we won this game. We had an inspired defensive performance combined with an uninspired Texans offensive performance and that’s the real reason our penalty aided, game winning field goal drive was even consequential. The W shouldn’t confuse the situation at all. We have run blocking and protection issues, RB issues, WR issues, TE issues and QB issues. We threw for 180 yards (adjusted for sacks) and 1 TD and that was honestly Bryce playing his best football so far. Bottom line, neither Reich or Brown can solve these issues with “creative” or even “genius” play calling. We can’t execute the most basic poo. We checked down a flea flicker, I’ve literally never seen that. Miles Sanders ran the wrong route and nearly killed the most crucial play of the game. As fans we should hope and cheer for getting the little things right. If we can do that then there’s hope to install more expansive options and expect success. I’m thrilled for the W and will enjoy it for what it is, a scrappy win instead of a sloppy loss. I hope we can build from it and extract some confidence. In UFC they often say winning a title makes you 30% better automatically. We didn’t win a title but we did win a game and perhaps that will make us a little more confident we can do it again.

Well that’s counting at least three games he played in but didn’t complete due to significant injury. So he’s played no more than 14 complete games of 40.

Unless you're a top draft choice or high profile free agent then you have to take the longer road to opportunity.....earning it.

It feels great to erase that zero. Bryce played admirably today in the face of ridiculous pressure and zero run support. Defense played a whale of a game. Gotta enjoy any victory this year, especially the actual victories!

Their relationship is really cool and it will be a great day for them to play each other in the pros this Sunday. Hey look Ma I made it moment. Otherwise, these comments say more about CJ than they do about Bryce. He can be trusted in front of a microphone, especially when asked about his lifetime friend. I imagine you'd have a hard time getting a negative word from CJ about any QB or player in the league tbh. He'll find the positive thing to say. All that means to me is I'll continue to be my own judge on BY9.

I think you just have to give up on this if the message hasn't been received. Perhaps it would help if you just called it "cost" as in part of what we "paid" for Bryce instead of what we traded. Scot just isn't connecting the dots and its painful to observe.

Article was titled "How to move forward" but the content was really more about the state of the team and diagnosis of problems save any criticism about how underwhelming BY9 has played. A speculative comment regarding a potential WR transaction could have been paired with trade speculation to keep all the lazy narratives cleanly organized. However, the article failed to address it's own question in my opinion. The Panthers move forward by accepting that the team's goals are no longer the typical goals of a NFL team, if they ever were to be honest. Our enduring purpose this season is to determine who on this team and staff are part of the future. That could be expanded upon in terms of what reasonable expectations are for the players, coaches, front office and organization as whole. Hell even throw in what we as fans can hope and cheer for in the fog of a lost season. That's how we move foward, by looking forward. The only real value of this season is how much we can learn from it.

They should contend again this year. Aside from that they play interesting meaningful football every Sunday.

You haven't bothered to read the thread, his TWO completions are acknowledged. The threshold for success in my eyes is higher than two completions, both just barely beyond 20 yards mind you. You're grasping at straws, personally attacking me and trying to characterize my discussion as rage. You're incapable of intelligent discussion so I'll waste no further time interacting with you. The ignore list grows and I'll happily never see a post you make again.

Yeah I can't make you have reasonable evaluations. Bryce has completed 2 passes beyond 20 yards in five games. That information is well established.

Ah, here we go personal attacks. The other tool Bryce stans break out. Great job supporting your point.

Cool, read the thread. He isn't at Alabama anymore, he's in the NFL. One defensive player from Tennessee in that clip is in the NFL. College tape gets you drafted, NFL tape keeps you in the league. Where's the NFL tape? I'll wait.....and all I'll see is apologies, excuses and more Alabama bullshit because he isn't performing in the NFL to this point.

I imagine our front office/ownership was jealous at the time both of these deals happened.

Personally I'd consider anything beyond 20 yards from the line of scrimmage as a deep shot.

You're not lying. The first video, pro day Bryce doesn't even connect on the one deep pass at 1:31. The ball is overthrown, receiver tries to stretch out for it but can only get fingertips on it. Analyst calls it a dime, lmao, that dude is on the payroll. I mean c'mon, you miss your only pro day deep shot long without a defense on the field? How many times was that practiced in an empty gym? Second video, our dude says 45 yards with ease. LMAO. The ball is snapped from the 6 yard line and caught at the 40 yard line which is a 34 yard completion. Our OP wants to rewrite the rules of passing charts to include the yardage of Bryce's drop back instead where it's snapped from. I'm sure our white knight OP will be like, but dude it was over 45 in the physical air, like you morons can't tell the difference between physical distance and charted distance??? NVM that logic would move the sliding scale for all quarterbacks and the relative distance between Bryce and normal would be the same. It's all quite hilarious.

Take your pie.

They're getting #1 and #2. While it's probably Williams + Harrison Jr. it would be kind of hilarious if they took Williams and Maye.

Sean McDermott should be the example here. We were one year late letting Rivera walk. McDermott was a rising star, Tepper was a new owner, Rivera still had recent credentials even though cracks were forming. We could have promoted from within and had the coach youth infusion every team is pining for. Instead Buffalo is Buffalo and Carolina is whatever the fug Carolina is. Brown or Evero are both candidates IMO. There should be a fair microscope on both of these young hungry coaches. Don’t let the answer walk out the door again. There isn’t a better interview than a full season or longer in the buidling.

This reminds me of a study in perceived cognitive decline due to hearing impairment. Essentially, hearing impairment causes the subject to exert more cognitive energy to the simple task of actually hearing something than the effortless capture of the same information without impairment. This difference in expenditure appears to be a cognitive deficiency when in fact it’s a physical deficiency. As Panthers fans even considering the possibility of “winning out”…we are the impaired. We’ve spent so much energy just to hear the conversation that we look stupid.

Hahaha this is an excellent question. It’s just because Bryce is a content generating machine not because of the OP, who I think may very well be his mom.

Dalton is a compass for Bryce, that’s his only purpose. Showing the kid what he should be doing. If Bryce gets hurt his purpose changes. I don’t think it’s a leap of faith that a veteran staff asked a veteran player to show the kid what was possible. As far as the lip service to the media, c’mon dude. Coach speak ain’t new, of course Reich is going to give the softest possible landing for Bryce. What do you expect him to say? Dalton is just better?

Agreed. It’s hard to really assess the truth in this though as Bryce has options on multiple depths on nearly every play. He also has changed the play at the line A LOT. We cannot know if it’s really on Bryce or play calling. We can know the play calling is more expansive than Bryce’s production though, because we’ve actually seen that. Again this is reality vs conjecture. I’m really only interested in discussing what we can KNOW by OBSERVATION. Anything else is a theory at best, often put out by talking heads who get paid to entertain us with theory crafting. I do completely agree only time can reveal the whole truth. Until said truth reveals itself I’ll be discussing actual events with level headed people interested in doing the same.

This all annoying to me because I just want to discuss what we’re seeing week to week. But too many posters here want to weave the imaginary into the conversation as if it were an equal to reality. I’m no BY hater. If he does well I’ll cheer and hope for more and talk about it. If he plays suspect I’m going to talk about that. I’m just tired of talking in paradigms about shoulda/coulda/woulda.

I respect this response and don't disagree with you at all. You can check my post history. I have praised the progress I saw from Young against Miami early. I'm just not going to pretend like he's doing things he hasn't.