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Hayward agrees to sign

Care-Oh-Linuh

By Care-Oh-Linuh,
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carpanfan96 Grand Master

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The Jazz are punk ass bitches for waiting all three days. From what I read earlier the only thing they'd be on the hook for until they match is his qualifying offer. Whereas, we are on the hook for the full amount offered until it's matched. So basically, theyre keeping us from moving forward for three days and hamstringing us from signing anyone else, simply by being jackasses.

They probably think Hornets are punk ass bitches for the offer with kicker and player option.

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WOW!! Grand Master

WOW!!

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They probably think Hornets are punk ass bitches for the offer with kicker and player option.

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We will still be the punk asses in the playoffs and they will have a max contract player watching us. So win -win no matter how long they wait.

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Keep believing that nonsense.

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There isn't always a difference....but there is a difference.  It depends on what sort of offensive/defensive system is being ran.  There's something called a "2 wing" set and there is something called a "3 wing set".  

 

A  SF in a  "2 wing set" is where primarily a small forward plays like a traditional forward.  Against a zone defense they would generally jet to the elbow when the ball is on the opposite side of their position(motion zone).  When the ball is moved to their side they're either squatting in the post or moving out to the short corner (spread offense).  Against man to man, obviously there are more set plays to move off of off ball screens but generally because of spacing they're not handling the ball as much unless it's driving to the rim.  This is typically a traditional half court style of offense when you're bigs are your strength.  Think Michigan State.

 

A SF in the "3 wing set"  the SF has the ability to handle the ball and is more prone to playing along the perimeter.  In essence in this sort of lineup you have a SGa and a SGb.  This is typically played when you have an athletic advantage, you want your shooters on the court, and/or you're trying to push the ball....which we do a lot.  

 

Hayward is valuable because he does have the ability to do both, but from my observation his strength is in a "3 wing set". Which means that he could play as a 2nd SG on the floor. If we need a big lineup on the floor he could be the SG.  I don't think this means he plays solely as a SG, but just when we're going big.

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MadHatter Rookie

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There isn't always a difference....but there is a difference.  It depends on what sort of offensive/defensive system is being ran.  There's something called a "2 wing" set and there is something called a "3 wing set".  

 

A  SF in a  "2 wing set" is where primarily a small forward plays like a traditional forward.  Against a zone defense they would generally jet to the elbow when the ball is on the opposite side of their position(motion zone).  When the ball is moved to their side they're either squatting in the post or moving out to the short corner (spread offense).  Against man to man, obviously there are more set plays to move off of off ball screens but generally because of spacing they're not handling the ball as much unless it's driving to the rim.  This is typically a traditional half court style of offense when you're bigs are your strength.  Think Michigan State.

 

A SF in the "3 wing set"  the SF has the ability to handle the ball and is more prone to playing along the perimeter.  In essence in this sort of lineup you have a SGa and a SGb.  This is typically played when you have an athletic advantage, you want your shooters on the court, and/or you're trying to push the ball....which we do a lot.  

 

Hayward is valuable because he does have the ability to do both, but from my observation his strength is in a "3 wing set". Which means that he could play as a 2nd SG on the floor. If we need a big lineup on the floor he could be the SG.  I don't think this means he plays solely as a SG, but just when we're going big.

 

excellent post.

 

Haywards value lies in the fact that he can slide to the 2 sometimes when MKG is brought in.  His strength is still at the SF position, so I doubt that the Hornets would sign him to a max contract to move him primarily to the SG position

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TheMaulClaw Mentor

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excellent post.

 

Haywards value lies in the fact that he can slide to the 2 sometimes when MKG is brought in.  His strength is still at the SF position, so I doubt that the Hornets would sign him to a max contract to move him primarily to the SG position

I agree.  If he was playing in a traditional 2 wing set obviously he'd be give more liberty with the ball in his hands.  

 

But with Big Al on the team a 3 wing set is the way to go because it creates more angles to get him the ball, and Big Al needs his space to operate.

 

Thanks for the compliment.

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ckad79 Newbie

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I expect the Jazz to match. Like i said before, desperation has kicked in for them. They pretty much have no chance now to find a replacement and Gordon is it. We could have offered him $18/m a year and I bet they match it. haha

 

What frustrates me is that so many fans want this deal to fall through, because they believe in their heart of hearts that the Hornets have a legitimate shot at signing a top tier free agent. I just don't get it. Maybe they've played fantasy GM on too many video games. I have heard no reports of big time players setting up interviews with MJ and company. Yet, people are like, "let Gordon walk, I want Lance". 

 

What is going to happen is, Gordon goes and Lance signs elsewhere. Free agency ends and we have nothing to show for it, and people will wish that we had gotten Gordon. I'm not going to sit here and say that Gordon is a gem either, because he has his flaws but to act like Charlotte can get anybody they want and that beggars can be choosers is pretty dumb IMO.

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