Cam v. Luck - The "Build Around" Philosophy

[Mr. Scot]

Weapons are not just draft picks but free agents which have made up a big portion of our offensive weapons. Talking about weapons without including all of them make the whole discussion rather inadequate, don't you agree. Why not include them and then make the comparison?

Just a suggestion and no I don't care enough to look it up myself.......

Valid point.

[Ruff]

Weapons are not just draft picks but free agents which have made up a big portion of our offensive weapons. Talking about weapons without including all of them make the whole discussion rather inadequate, don't you agree. Why not include them and then make the comparison?

Just a suggestion and no I don't care enough to look it up myself.......

 

I was actually going to, but the Colts free agent history page is a god awful mess. I can do it when I have enough time.

 

Example: here's the Colts' page: http://www.colts.com/team/transactions.html

 

Here's the Panthers' page: http://www.panthers.com/team/history/free-agency-history.html

[Gin and Juice]

Major headway can and should be made this year!

My only hope is JPP, some more vet presence sprinkled about......then this draft needs to be BOPA, with the exception of a safety.

Would be sweet to pick up a true every down back like a Peterson or Murray out of this coming draft

[FugginPoo]

Luck will break Mannings TD record

[panthers55]

I was actually going to, but the Colts free agent history page is a god awful mess. I can do it when I have enough time.

Example: here's the Colts' page: http://www.colts.com/team/transactions.html

Here's the Panthers' page: http://www.panthers.com/team/history/free-agency-history.html

Overlay the list when you get it assembled and then based on current or past contribution give them a simple grade like 0 for a rookie on IR to a 3 for a starter and perhaps 2 for a rotational guy and a 1 for a guy who is a project. Anyway you get a composite score that has a quantity factor as well as a quality aspect to better make your point or negate it.

[CRA]

There were about 8 balls Houston could of picked off last night.

If Cam would have played the exact same game the talk would have been different

[Ruff]

Overlay the list when you get it assembled and then based on current or past contribution give them a simple grade like 0 for a rookie on IR to a 3 for a starter and perhaps 2 for a rotational guy and a 1 for a guy who is a project. Anyway you get a composite score that has a quantity factor as well as a quality aspect to better make your point or negate it.

That was the plan. Looking at the Colts list, it was hard to determine how to say if s player was a net gain, loss, or push when he was signed and then released like a month later.

[CRA]

Weapons are not just draft picks but free agents which have made up a big portion of our offensive weapons. Talking about weapons without including all of them make the whole discussion rather inadequate, don't you agree. Why not include them and then make the comparison?

Just a suggestion and no I don't care enough to look it up myself.......

Weapons? Plural?

Greg Olsen is one man. Not plural. He was also picked up before Cam.

[panthers55]

That was the plan. Looking at the Colts list, it was hard to determine how to say if s player was a net gain, loss, or push when he was signed and then released like a month later.

Well that one is easy, if you sign him and don't use him he is a 0 in my system. It isn't net loss or gain but relative value. Everything goes from no value to great value. it rewards the pick up and development of a guy .

[The Huddler]

I know you're #1 Gettleman Fanboi, but I'm actually not saying it's his fault. I'm saying it's partly fault for everyone involved. The coaching staff, the front office (both of the regimes), the owner, etc. Cam needs to have more weapons. It's as simple as that.

Lol Why be rude? i didnt say anything about you and what you said. Just Putting in my 2cents. I aint his fanboy, i simply wont bash him for the decisions he has made. They were very tough decisions and its way immature to react so hard against him.

[panthers55]

Weapons? Plural?

Greg Olsen is one man. Not plural. He was also picked up before Cam.

Weapons include vets and guys already here picked up by anyone. After all who you already have on the roster greatly influence who you pick up on both sides of the ball. I thought you were going to chime in with how much of a weapon that DeAngelo is to Cam.

[footballisasport]

Yeah we haven't put as many pieces around him like we should which is not good. But Cam does have a better defense to fall back on than Luck.

Such a pathetic excuse.

Since when a QB depends on his Defense to help him score? Yes, the defense is important but how does that help Cam in the offensive realm?

[Frizzy350]

Such a pathetic excuse.

Since when a QB depends on his Defense to help him score? Yes, the defense is important but how does that help Cam in the offensive realm?

 

Field position.

 

That was semi-sarcastic.  Defense won't help them move the ball better, but field position makes it so you don't need to move the ball as far.

 

Also not having to play catch up keeps the offense from being forced into 1 dimension.

[Mojo]

That poor horse...