Who should I BELIEVE?

[King Schhit]

I've been a fan long before Cam got here. But if we trade Cam or let him go after not giving him weapons/OL or not ridding this offense of Shula first, then he goes elsewhere & lights up the world I would be done with this team. I would just be an NFL fan with no team.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Believe your eyes.  Cam holds onto the ball too long sometimes and the rest of the offense sucks.

 

Cam is a part of a stupid offense that requires him to 1) fake a handoff to the RB and then 2) fake like he's going to run it himself before he 3) sets up to pass the ball. All that before a pass on many of their plays, and then people complain about his timing being off?

 

I hope he leaves and goes somewhere like Dallas just so I can pull a complete 180 and pull for a team I've hated my entire life while dumping one that I've loved.

 

Should've gone after Cowher TWO YEARS AGO when you wanted to run Rivera out of town. It would be clear by now whether Cam is actually the problem or if it's "everything else." But hey, many of you don't care whether it's anything else. Many of your BIGOTED minds were made up before he got here and many of them haven't changed one bit, despite him exceeding every expectation you had. You expected him to come into the league right from the start and look like he has the last 3 weeks, but instead he looked like one of the best young QBs out there.

 

He's probably gotten to the point now where he doesn't care anymore, and I don't blame him.

[Matthias]

It didn't take Cam a year to adjust to the shift from college to NFL.  It's not going to take him a year to adjust to a new NFL system.  Just stop with this trade Cam nonsense.  Unless the Raiders are offering their next four 1sts and 2nds, not interested.

 

 

Well, the last couple of coaches we had were defensive minded coaches.  There's no reason to believe the next guy, if Rivera himself doesn't return, will not be a defensive guy.  We need an offensive genius, a guy who can look past Cam's athleticism and actually develop his throwing skills.  I don't see that happening.  Plus even if we were looking for an offensive genius, there really isn't one out there.  I don't have any confidence in Cam to develop himself in this regard.  He still leans heavily on his physical ability.  I just don't see this thing paying off long term.  Cam doesn't have the will to be a mobile Peyton Manning.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Anyone who puts that OL in front of Cam....sits back and then questions Cam. IMO, simply doesn't want him to be the future.

In fact, you couldn't of done more to sabotage his growth heading into this year than we have done. And heading into this year we had done nothing prior.

Dave "Long Pause" Gettlemen. Starting to believe my initial take on him was right. His vision doesn't have a new age QB in it.

 

NOWWWWWW, people are finally getting it.

[Fan01]

Bunch of crap.

 

When is the last time a team with a hot pro bowl QB early in his career decided to "go in another direction."

 

Even if management had their doubts, he's too good a player to not build around the next 7-8 years.  Because if you dump him it'll take at least that long if not longer to get another superstar QB.  Twenty years in the league and he's our first one.

 

Grading him behind that O-line?  Quit peeing on me and telling me it's raining.

[Bj-Monster23]

I've been a fan long before Cam got here. But if we trade Cam or let him go after not giving him weapons/OL or not ridding this offense of Shula first, then he goes elsewhere & lights up the world I would be done with this team. I would just be an NFL fan with no team.

It would be a shame because we was the team that took the risk. We was the team to groom him up until this day. If their is any thoughts about letting Cam go I will fire Rivera and Shula first. Because his development has a lot to do with them as well.

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[Bj-Monster23]

Well, the last couple of coaches we had were defensive minded coaches. There's no reason to believe the next guy, if Rivera himself doesn't return, will not be a defensive guy. We need an offensive genius, a guy who can look past Cam's athleticism and actually develop his throwing skills. I don't see that happening. Plus even if we were looking for an offensive genius, there really isn't one out there. I don't have any confidence in Cam to develop himself in this regard. He still leans heavily on his physical ability. I just don't see this thing paying off long term. Cam doesn't have the will to be a mobile Peyton Manning.

. There is some offensive minds out there that would love to have a QB like Cam Newton. If you think otherwise you are sadly mistaken. We can find someone who can't get even more out of Cam and this offense if we let Rivera go which I doubt will happen. Because Rivera will go on and win the last remaining games that doesn't matter like in previous years and he will save face.

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[Matthias]

. There is some offensive minds out there that would love to have a QB like Cam Newton. If you think otherwise you are sadly mistaken. We can find someone who can't get even more out of Cam and this offense if we let Rivera go which I doubt will happen. Because Rivera will go on and win the last remaining games that doesn't matter like in previous years and he will save face.

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I don't see us winning until perhaps we face the Bucs again.  Harbaugh might be the best coach that will be out there. 

[caveman75]

You guys can blame the oline all you want but what people will be looking at is when he has protection, can he make the throws. He has had protection these past three games an he has not made the throws. I mean they got KB for him an he is still over throwing him!

Every QB gets sacked so that can't be an excuse as to why he is playing bad.

 

Cam's main issue ATM is lack of confidence in his line.  First touchdown against the 'Taints' was off a fumble because Cam choked it up after getting hit on the blind side.  If the 2 back to back sacks on the last posession weren't enough to convince you then I honestly don't know what else to tell you...I can't argue with someone who doesn't see the truth in front of them.  The line completely broke down in the second half and it didn't have far to go to get there after a thoroughly unspectacular first half.

 

Yeah Cam's accuracy left quite a bit to be desired, but how accurately can you throw with a linebacker's breath in your face?

 

Can't fault the guy when he does hold onto the ball.  He is waiting for an open receiver on a play the defense can see coming a mile away.  Our play calling is 30% runs and 70% long passes.  That is not going to win games.  Every time we run to the right side behind our better (albelit not great) linemen, we make headway.  But Shula doesn't take advantage of that.

 

I'll be the first to admit Cam still needs work on his emotional maturity and poise when the team gets down, but QB is not the position we need help at.

 

[Bj-Monster23]

I don't see us winning until perhaps we face the Bucs again. Harbaugh might be the best coach that will be out there.

Well if he is the best coach out there. We should at least give the man an interview.

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[TheMaulClaw]

Bunch of crap.

 

When is the last time a team with a hot pro bowl QB early in his career decided to "go in another direction."

 

Even if management had their doubts, he's too good a player to not build around the next 7-8 years.  Because if you dump him it'll take at least that long if not longer to get another superstar QB.  Twenty years in the league and he's our first one.

 

Grading him behind that O-line?  Quit peeing on me and telling me it's raining.

 

We really don't need a superstar at QB.  We need a proven veteran that knows how to hit check downs, can get rid of the ball, and manage the team effectively.   I'm telling you DA would have put up more points in each of the last 3 games because he can throw with touch, get the ball out quickly,  and he can read defenses better.  

 

[FuFuLamePoo]

Can't wait for Cam to leave for a better situation (possibly St. Louis???) and fuging torch us in a few years. Gonna be so glorious

[Ricky Spanish]

stop trying to blame one person.

 

Everyone deserves blame. They all have been sucking from Rivera to shula to cam to the offensive line. 

 

Everyone sucks. 

[KendrickPanther]

Everybody knows Cam has a poor offensive line. But he is getting protection. When Cam has time to throw, is he making the most of it? Last night he did not. It's like a running back. When they get no blocking on three straight runs you don't blame them. But on the 4th run if there is a hole and they can't take advantage of it....that is on them.