Understanding Cam's situation

[Swaggasaurus]

So how do you figure Cam should go about making Byron Bell better? Or have the WR's hang onto some of these passes that are hitting them in the hands?

how about not throwing 75 mph fastballs with no loft. no touch, zero, nada.

[philp]

Really pickles is your example. Captain check down and throw the ball away..

Worst offense in NfL history is your example. ....??

Well someone should teach cam how to throw the ball away he sure is hell isn't doing it. Every other drive we face a 2nd or 3rd and a hundred yards to go. It's a drive killer everyime.

[*FreeFua*]

how about not throwing 75 mph fastballs with no loft. no touch, zero, nada.

When your WR's create no separation you have to throw the ball hard. If the WR's created bigger windows for Cam to throw the ball then he could afford to take something off of it.

Still waiting to hear how Cam is suppose to make guys like Bell and Chandler better.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Guys,

 

The team sucks and always has (save five seasons out of 19). FIVE OUT OF 19.

 

The FO sucks and always has. Period.

 

The coaches suck and always have (save five seasons out of 19). NO BACK TO BACK WINNING SEASONS.

 

Cam is NOT elte. He's very, very good. Can he be elite? Maybe. But for now? Nope.

 

 

These are your Panthers. I'm starting to wonder why we even bother making predictions, discussing games, and debate and argue on here. We'll go the Playoffs again in a year or two, then have 3-4 losing seasons afterward. Cam can't save this team by himself. And as we've seen for 14 of 19 seasons, nothing is being built here. Nothing. Neat, we have Luke. Cool!

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go read the thread about that kind, good-hearted, sweet old man ... Jerry Richardson.

[TheMaulClaw]

Really pickles is your example. Captain check down and throw the ball away..

Worst offense in NfL history is your example. ....??

 

If Cam learned to check the ball down and throw the ball away we probably would have won the Seattle game, and Thursday would have been a lot closer.  

 

We would have won against Seattle if DA was in, because he wouldn't have literally handed the ball off to the opponent. 

 

Where we have Cam "lets hold the ball in my own endzone and wait for a long developing route" Newton.

[TheMaulClaw]

Claw what part of long developing plays do you guys not understand. Last year Cam was sacked 43 times and Brady was sacked 40. Is Brady holding the ball too long? The quicker the ball comes out, less sacks you take. Did you watch our defense play this year? Do you see opposing offenses get the ball out in 3 seconds on WR screens and quick out routes to avoid our pass rush? Its been a constant game-plan against us this year. Our offensive system doesn't do that

 

Our offensive system is part of the problem.  Our Oline is part of the problem.  Cam holding the ball is part of the problem.  Cam doesn't utilize his safety valves.

 

I want Cam to succeed but I'm not going to give him special treatment and blame everyone else except him. 

 

Truth is I do want him to be our QB.....but he's not worth 22 mill a fugin year, and it's not even close.

[TheRumGone]

Our offensive system is part of the problem.  Our Oline is part of the problem.  Cam holding the ball is part of the problem.  Cam doesn't utilize his safety valves.

 

I want Cam to succeed but I'm not going to give him special treatment and blame everyone else except him. 

 

Truth is I do want him to be our QB.....but he's not worth 22 mill a fugin year, and it's not even close.

 

we had te's and rbs stay in to block. safety valves were rare.

[Swaggasaurus]

When your WR's create no separation you have to throw the ball hard. If the WR's created bigger windows for Cam to throw the ball then he could afford to take something off of it.

Still waiting to hear how Cam is suppose to make guys like Bell and Chandler better.

awareness and anticipation. Two things that Cam displays none of. Get the ball out faster so they do not have to block all day, step up in the pocket. You do see that he refuses to step up right? You do see that he doesn't anticipate the receivers break on the ball and instead rifles it in at the last moment? These are very real things, all players deserve both criticism and praise when due. I see that Cam excels in athleticism, 15-30 yards throws down the seam and the 5-20 yard out. He is average or below in every other facet of being a qb.

[TheMaulClaw]

we had te's and rbs stay in to block. safety valves were rare.

 

When they were there they were ignored.  Tape don't lie. 

[TheRumGone]

awareness and anticipation. Two things that Cam displays none of. Get the ball out faster so they do not have to block all day, step up in the pocket. You do see that he refuses to step up right? You do see that he doesn't anticipate the receivers break on the ball and instead rifles it in at the last moment? These are very real things, all players deserve both criticism and praise when due. I see that Cam excels in athleticism, 15-30 yards throws down the seam and the 5-20 yard out. He is average or below in every other facet of being a qb.

He has displayed awareness and anticipation many times. Especially in his good four game streak.

You literally just said none and I lol at you

[TheRumGone]

One atrocious game doesn't define cam as a passer

[TheRumGone]

When they were there they were ignored.  Tape don't lie. 

 

how many times. i saw twice.

 

no doubt AT ALL cam had an awful game. but people are acting like this is the norm. it's not.

[philp]

One atrocious game doesn't define cam as a passer

He's had quite a few bad games. They are starting to add up.

[AceBoogie]

If Cam learned to check the ball down and throw the ball away we probably would have won the Seattle game, and Thursday would have been a lot closer.

We would have won against Seattle if DA was in, because he wouldn't have literally handed the ball off to the opponent.

Where we have Cam "lets hold the ball in my own endzone and wait for a long developing route" Newton.

What check down???