If the Panthers lose should Ron Rivera return?

[ThinkAboutIt]

I think you give him the same ultimatum the Titans gave Mike Munchak. He must change his staff or he will be replaced.

 

That implies that his staff is more of a problem than he is. 

[ThinkAboutIt]

Apparently most people replying in this thread either can't read or comprehend.

 

He asked YOU what YOU WOULD DO, not what would happen. There aren't many people alive who don't expect Rivera to be back next season regardless of what happens Sunday.

 

Are most of you so BRICK-HEADED that you can't play along with the question and fail to understand that answering the actual question would be much more informative than you stating the obvious as if no one knows it. 

[ThinkAboutIt]

A light seems to come on in Rivera's head in December and he actually resembles a decent coach. 

 

Called "nonsense" at this sentence and stopped reading.

 

No "light" comes on. He's trying to save his arse at that point because he's stunk it up for 3 months. 

[PanthersClinic]

Rivera doesn't impress me as a coach. He seems like a really great guy and a hard worker but I think in terms of his personnel decisions (Dwill over Jstew, Roman Harper and Nakamura getting playt time in his tenure, etc) and his game management (lost so many games in four years due to poor clock work) He just hasn't shown enough.

 

I think he reaches players and is a good motivator but that's not enough for a head coach. At best he'd be an average coach and we really don't have any more time to waste on him.

[magnus]

I expect no changes, win or lose.  Those expecting otherwise aren't right or wrong, but they are setting themselves up for disappointment. 

 

Ron won't be given an ultimatum to make changes or go, because the team isn't willing to part with him.  That's not a bad thing in and of itself.  It also means, any changes likely comes from within. 

 

What I'd do, honestly, is two-fold.  Ron moves Rodgers to a chief-of-staff type role, maybe calls him assistant head coach.  it's undeserved, but would nonetheless give him a trusted lieutenant who does nothing but help him.  DeHaven or someone outside (Bobby April is about to be available again, and while the shine has come off the Alan Rickman doppelganger, he's still good) coaches ST. 

 

Then, I'd go after a young assistant to add to the O, working on special projects in theory (I don't care what you call him on the site or on his paycheck), but also a bit of a muse to streamline the offense.  A young college coach like Dameyune Craig, or similar.  A small amount of NFL experience, work with the spread in college, and success with it.  I pick a guy like that because he has associations with Malzahn, who associates with Cam, but he's not a playcaller, he's not established, and therefore he's not a huge risk to be lost or to cost more than position coaches.  No one that's going to change the offense's design, that's not going to happen and I don't want it to happen.  But, an assistant that works outside of the typical NFL boundaries and can help install the college game's signals, pace, and innovation to the current system (that, to be fair, Shula has started to do with the pistol, packaged plays, and more compact terminology). 

 

I think those two moves would work.  They're also tremendously unlikely to happen.

[mc52beast]

Rivera stays regardless of what happens Sunday, bet your house on it. Shula on the other hand needs to go, win or lose.

[ThinkAboutIt]

Rivera stays regardless of what happens Sunday, bet your house on it. Shula on the other hand needs to go, win or lose.

 

He asked you SHOULD he return if they lose, not will he.

[bandu]

Riverbait will be the head coach of the Carolina Panthers for 30 consectuive seasons and break Tom Landrys record,suck it cowgirls.after this season Shula Jr. will be fired and take his 19-12-1 regular season record to south beach and be deemed as the second coming of Don Shula.these two former comrades on the gridiron will finally make the Superbowl in 2040 and Mike Shula will break his pappys record for the fewest points ever scored in the Superbowl.

[err456]

Called "nonsense" at this sentence and stopped reading.

 

No "light" comes on. He's trying to save his arse at that point because he's stunk it up for 3 months. 

 

on second thought you may be right

[Billy Love]

RR should not return regardless.

[rodeo]

I think it all depends on Gettleman's plan. If he has someone in mind already to be head coach, and that person is a substantial upgrade over Rivera then there's no reason not to pull the trigger.

 

But if there is no plan for a HC beyond Gettleman's personally preferred conservative Rivera/Fox clone who was a long term DC with little coaching experience, there's no point in firing Rivera just for the sake of it. Fire Shula and let Rivera keep leading the team he's built.

 

In other words I only accept his firing if the replacement is someone I personally like. If the front office is reading this PM me for my list of candidates.

[CharlottePanther]

If we win he should be gone. It's clear as day he is only in it for the money and job security, he got his extension so Riverboat and his desire to win went out the door. He's a terrible HC and should be fired win or lose this game

[PantherFanOne]

It's hard to know what Gettleman and JR are presently thinking because we are in  somewhat of a rebuilding mode and they both play their cards close to the vest

I  have no way of knowing if they think Rivera is the HC to lead us in an upward trend.going foward, but the outcome of Sundays Falcon game could help determine their decision, as well as my opinion.

[amcoolio]

He is staying regardless of the outcome....however, I think Rex Ryan would be a much better coach. Lets face it, Richardson/Gettleman will be going defense oriented coach as long as he is alive, even though Adam Gase or Josh McDaniels would be really, really good for Cam and the offense's development.