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3 Year Totals

Luck: 13,862 Yd, 98 Td, 56 Tov

Cam: 13,331 Yd, 92 Td, 48 Tov

Luck: 10 Wins vs .500+ Opponent

Cam: 7 Wins vs .500+ Opponent

Media Outlook

Luck: Elite QB & future HOFer

Cam: Average QB- Is he even worth paying?

Luck's 16-2 W/L record against the shitty Jags, Titans, & Texans has really helped build up that faux legend.

Cam won 12 games in year 3, Luck has never won that many in a season. Cam reached the Divisional Round of the playoffs, that's as far as Luck has made it.

Their stats are damn near even and their wins against actual competition are also equal. So what's the difference? Luck is God and Cam is Average. Why?

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Media will argue only reason we were 12-4 last year is defense and that he still sucked, while Luck is "carrying" his team with their "horrible" defense. This is a fight I'm not going to bother wasting my time on. The media and general idiots have made their mind up. We know the truth.

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Newton and Luck are the best two young, upcoming QBs, with Luck slightly ahead of Cam as of now going on more than stats, but very slightly. That said I think they'll both come out great in the end and right now it's impossible to say who will come out ahead of the other. As a Panther fan, I hope it's Cam but who cares really?

Bottom line: both are elite.

Mods need to just lock these threads or merge them.

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I wonder if Colts fans constantly compare Luck to Cam on a daily basis...

They don't. Cam has fanboys Luck does not, these fanboys have some sort of inferiority complex with Cam...I'm not sure why but I know many Colts fans and they couldn't care less about Cam.

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3 Year Totals

Luck: 13,862 Yd, 98 Td, 56 Tov

Cam: 13,331 Yd, 92 Td, 48 Tov

Luck: 10 Wins vs .500+ Opponent

Cam: 7 Wins vs .500+ Opponent

Media Outlook

Luck: Elite QB & future HOFer

Cam: Average QB- Is he even worth paying?

Luck's 16-2 W/L record against the shitty Jags, Titans, & Texans has really helped build up that faux legend.

Cam won 12 games in year 3, Luck has never won that many in a season. Cam reached the Divisional Round of the playoffs, that's as far as Luck has made it.

Their stats are damn near even and their wins against actual competition are also equal. So what's the difference? Luck is God and Cam is Average. Why?

 

just stop with this nonsense

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