Vikings GM; We expect AP to return. What universe is domestic abuse worse than child abuse?

[top dawg]

if they cut Hardy there's no chance of a compensatory pick in 2016. If someone else signs him once his contract runs out there's a chance at a 3rd.

As far as I'm concerned, that's a weak reason to pass up on Veldheer (or anyone, really).

Carry on, I don't mean to hijack thread. As for abuse, I will just say that abuse is abuse, but not all abuse is equal.

[Frizzy350]

Hitting an adult woman is the same thing as hitting a defenseless child? Hmm. And stealing something to feed your family is the same as murdering someone for the joy of it? Hmm.

 

How about you just stop hitting, murdering and stealing instead of justifying unethical behavior?

[Snake]

Where was it ever proven Hardy hit anyone? Last I checked the accuser never showed up in court instead deciding to visit CO and NY. 

 

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[h0llywood]

AD already served his suspension in 2014.

 

Comparing Hardy to AP is irrelevant at this point.

[PantherFanOne]

Hardy allegedly threw what's her name on a bed full of guns, slammed a toilet lid on her arm while she was literally gold digging, and strangled her to the point where she believed she was going to die.

 

AP struck his child's rear with a switch multiple times.

 

While violence is worse? The violence experienced by the woman was worse because it came with the added fear of death. She felt as though she was about to die, and that terror is exceedingly excruciating. She made it clear that she wanted to die just to make the fear of death stop. That was a far worse experience than being beating by a switch. It's not close.

 

Dear Panther players reading this, don't strike your kids with anything. Talk to your kids. Don't hit your woman. Dump her.

 

LOL You use the word "ALLEGEDLY" in Hardy's situation,then go on like it really happened the way she wanted one to believe. Sorry,since neither of us was there "ALLEGED" is all we can go on,not her possible trumped up story.

[PantherFanOne]

I guess it depends on who the captain of the ship is... JR doesn't seem to keen on the idea of Hardy playing in Charlotte again, regardless of how talented he is.

 

 

In my opinion,the re-signing of Greg Hardy decision should be determined by the amount of money it will take to re-sign him.

If we can afford Hardy and still sign the players we want and need,then  JR balks because Greg does not fit into the choir boy image he likes, it will show me he cares more about the image than than he does about fielding a championship football team.

[scarface]

I don't consider spanking your child for acting like a little demon is child abuse and Hardy is not being charged. This whole thing is ridiculous and only made a big deal because Goodell screwed up the whole Ray Rice situation. Hopefully Hardy and AP can come back next season and Hardy is still with the Panthers. 

[Mr. Scot]

In my opinion,the re-signing of Greg Hardy decision should be determined by the amount of money it will take to re-sign him.

If we can afford Hardy and still sign the players we want and need,then JR balks because Greg does not fit into the choir boy image he likes, it will show me he cares more about the image than than he does about fielding a championship football team.

Yeah, this is still just as incredibly stupid an opinion as it was before.

Not throwing huge money at guys with a history of risky behavior does not equal "Doesn't care about winning".

It equals " Don't trust this yahoo to stay out of trouble."

[MHS831]

Is it just me? Am I crazy? But isn't child abuse way worse than domestic abuse? Not downplaying domestic abuse at all but in my mind child abuse is way worse. Vikings brass are smart in not letting a player of AP's caliber walk. Hardy should be welcomed back here also.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Desperation-Competition-Neglected-Children/dp/0761839933

 

You are not crazy.  I have researched the topic of child abuse extensively (see link).  While we are comparing degrees of inhumanity and cruelty, a child has no escape.  Women control the situation to a point--often they have choices and options--mental maturity and intelligence to analyze the situation up until the abuse is triggered; children are often born into the situation and never chose their abuser.  Again, both are tragic. 

 

Your question is interesting because the first thing I thought of is this:  Soldiers with PTSD from 1-year tours of duty are given millions of dollars worth of assistance.  Children, who have a "tour of duty" that is much longer, are beaten by "giants" three times their size.  The level of trauma is often worse in children and more damaging to developing brains.  Still, we focus on the veterans--rightly so, but since children are treated as an adult's property, we often forget their rights.

 

I just saw Lovie Smith say on NFL .com something like "Kids make mistakes.  We are not going to give him a death sentence because he wasn't mature..."  What?  I hope he eats those words.

 

[Ace_Aladdin]

I agree that it was a gross overestimation of the capabilities of the OL by the Panthers front office.

I said time and time again during camp the Panthers would certainly bring in at least one veteran tackle. Afterall, Cam was taking sack upon sack in camp if he was allowed to be hit.

I was wrong.

You seem dead set that Hardy will never return ... What kind if crows are you going to eat if your wrong ?

[Frank Hollywood]

No two cases are the same and they shouldn't really be compared to each other. It's never apples to apples.

[TimTom]

fml. nfl sharia law.

[PantherFanOne]

Yeah, this is still just as incredibly stupid an opinion as it was before.

Not throwing huge money at guys with a history of risky behavior does not equal "Doesn't care about winning".

It equals " Don't trust this yahoo to stay out of trouble."

 

 

That's your opinion. and you are welcome to it.I would be willing to bet money that there will be a lot of teams that don't look at it that way and will try hard to sign Hardy. Plus,i never said we should throw big money at Greg Hardy,just said we should try signing him if we had the money after meeting our other needs.

[Mr. Scot]

That's your opinion. and you are welcome to it.I would be willing to bet money that there will be a lot of teams that don't look at it that way and will try hard to sign Hardy. Plus,i never said we should throw big money at Greg Hardy,just said we should try signing him if we had the money after meeting our other needs.

Your definition of 'caring about winning' means signing character risks. A lot of teams shy away from these guys, and not because they want 'choirboys' but because they know guys who are on suspension don't help you win games.

After this past season's fiascos, you're likely to see even fewer teams than before willing to take chances, especially in DV cases. Some have specifically said so (the Ravens, for example, have said they'll stay away from those guys).