Cam is going to get paid

[ThinkAboutIt]

It will be for at least the next three years (and probably longer).

 

 

So, indentured servitude? 

[ThinkAboutIt]

Honestly I don't know. No it's not Derek Anderson. However if everything we've heard about what Newton will get paid is true, then I doubt Gettleman resigns him. Paying a decent quarterback a ton of money whose yet to prove he's worth it (I'm talking 20-25 million a year) can have just as disastrous consequences as trying your luck with someone else.

My main point is that I am very prepared for the possibility Gettleman lets him walk, and I would understand his decision.

 

What will it take for him to "prove that he's worth it," in your view? 

 

Explain without mentioning anything that every QBs does, including those that have been paid or will be in the near future, particularly Luck and Wilson. 

[JJman Returns]

What will it take for him to "prove that he's worth it," in your view?

Explain without mentioning anything that every QBs does, including those that have been paid or will be in the near future, particularly Luck and Wilson.

Luck and Wilson have better stats and much more wins then Cam since they both shared the same league. Not to mention Wilson has a Super Bowl ring. Cam's career record at QB is 30-31-1 (and 1-2 in the playoffs). I know that it's unfair to put the blame on him for those losses, considering how atrocious the '11 defense was and the OLine the last couple years.

HOWEVER (And I stress this as I've already said this before) - My main point is this......

If Cam struggles next season and we have another below .500 season then I think it'd be very fair for Gettleman to decide against giving him a record breaking contract. However, I would not be mad if he did. Either way, I think it's an understandable decision. Gettleman has earned my trust 100% and I stand by whatever choice he makes.

I don't get why all of you seem to think I'm against extending Cam Newton. I'm just speaking in hypotheticals right now.

[Mr. Scot]

So, indentured servitude? 

 

Oh sure, with an 18 million dollar paycheck.

 

(that may be the single stupidest comparison we've seen yet)

 

[ThinkAboutIt]

Oh sure, with an 18 million dollar paycheck.

 

(that may be the single stupidest comparison we've seen yet)

 

 

It's only stupid to someone too stupid to understand it. You all boast about a team's ability to force a player to stay with it without ever giving the player an ACTUAL contract. It doesn't matter how much more than an actual indentured servant they're being paid, philosophically, it's exactly the same. 

[ThinkAboutIt]

Luck and Wilson have better stats and much more wins then Cam since they both shared the same league. Not to mention Wilson has a Super Bowl ring. Cam's career record at QB is 30-31-1 (and 1-2 in the playoffs). I know that it's unfair to put the blame on him for those losses, considering how atrocious the '11 defense was and the OLine the last couple years.

HOWEVER (And I stress this as I've already said this before) - My main point is this......

If Cam struggles next season and we have another below .500 season then I think it'd be very fair for Gettleman to decide against giving him a record breaking contract. However, I would not be mad if he did. Either way, I think it's an understandable decision. Gettleman has earned my trust 100% and I stand by whatever choice he makes.

I don't get why all of you seem to think I'm against extending Cam Newton. I'm just speaking in hypotheticals right now.

 

The point is their "stats" are no better. That's been discussed enough before. Luck plays AT LEAST 8 games a year in a dome and his conference sucks every season, and Wilson was on the best team in the league and didn't have to CARRY his offense like Cam, or carry BOTH the offense and the defense like Cam did his first 1.5 years when they had one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

[mcdougal]

The sad thing is many Panthers fans out there would be happy if Cam doesnt get paid by us......

 

Ding! Ding! Ding! Which is why some (not all or even a majority) but some is comfortable with the level of talent the Panthers have surrounded Newton with to date, and is adamant that nothing be done to upgrade it.

 

I really wouldn't put is past some to hope that the Panthers are as unsuccessful as possible while he is the QB. Remember they are dying to scream "I told you so!!!"

[Frank Hollywood]

It's only stupid to someone too stupid to understand it. You all boast about a team's ability to force a player to stay with it without ever giving the player an ACTUAL contract. It doesn't matter how much more than an actual indentured servant they're being paid, philosophically, it's exactly the same.

I must be too stupid to understand it. Odd, I thought I was doing so well in life.

[blackcat]

For those wanting Cam to get paid THIS year. May I ask with what funds are we paying him? He's already on the books for $15 mil or there abouts.

The team does have a few more $ to spend, but they've got to get some supporting players, which they have. They also need to sign rookies, and sign a few more FAs.

Calm the fug down. Cam is going to get paid, and it's going to be here. DG has had to work out of cap hell and we're still working through it.

How much cap room are we looking at next year? Answer that question and all your fears will subside. Chill out and have a qualude.

[CelibatePimp]

I like the way people like to count Cam's money. Living vicariuosly through the QB. Go out and get paid yourself.

 

And if this thread was based of Big Ben's payday, well he has two SB rings.

[Devil Doc]

Have you guys ever thought, maybe its not the money? What if Cam and Keek truly love playing for this team? Sure there expecting to get paid, however, if another team offers more i dont see them moving, they love it here.

[AceBoogie]

Have you guys ever thought, maybe its not the money? What if Cam and Keek truly love playing for this team? Sure there expecting to get paid, however, if another team offers more i dont see them moving, they love it here.

With Cam it's about his Brand, the best thing for his brand is for him to stay where he's built it. But guys like Wilson and Luck are killing his brand. It's not his fault, they're on better teams. That's where my thinking him leaving is possible. Like he said, it's a business.

[MHS831]

If I am Cam's agent, I don't mind waiting.  He is guaranteed $14m+, his salary will only improve.  He has yet to have that "breakout season" which could be on the horizon, with the upgrades on the OL.  I also expect this team to make the playoffs again.  Barring injury, there is nothing to be lost by waiting.

 

And that works for the Panthers too.  Cam has been banged up, he has been erratic at times.  While I think he is the franchise qb, there is a varying degree of $$$ that a team might be willing to pay.  They can keep him (realiistically) for 2 more seasons (the 3rd year would be ridiculous money). 

 

However, I think the Big Ben deal helps clear the waters a bit.  I also think Eli Manning's deal (which will follow) will be in the same ballpark.  While Cam's camp was waiting for the Wilson/Luck contract announcements, they may be out of luck (har) anytime soon.  If we are to sign Cam now, it will be based on the veteran, super-bowl winning contracts. 

 

If I were Gettlemen, I would look at the cap, look at the college crop of QBs coming out next year, and if I am not sold on the cost vs. production, I trade Cam while he has value to move up in the draft.  HOWEVER, if I am sold on Cam, which I assume he is, I work out a 6 year contract for him that averages $20m.  By the end of that deal, I assume he will be a bargain (if the rate continues to rise).  Guarantee a lot of money up front, so if he deteriorates, we have an out.

 

But for those of you who want to see a $25m contract to validate him in some way, that is how Hurney thought.  In addition, it makes you a Cam fan, not a Panther fan. 

[carolinaperks]

Isn't it obvious by now that Gettleman isn't spending money on FAs because we're setting a lot of space aside for franchise players like Cam and Kuechly?