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Panthers believe their number 2 receiver is already on then roster, Makes sense he has had all year to learn the offense and get programmed and trained the right way.... he was a number 1 pick and was the number 1 receiver on his last team.

It's makes sense, considering how we do everything else we will draft a receiver to compete for the job, but it's his to lose I think.... this is only my opinion.... don't shoot me.

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Panthers believe their number 2 receiver is already on then roster, Makes sense he has had all year to learn the offense and get programmed and trained the right way.... he was a number 1 pick and was the number 1 receiver on his last team.

It's makes sense, considering how we do everything else we will draft a receiver to compete for the job, but it's his to lose I think.... this is only my opinion.... don't shoot me.

 

 

Considering that most other teams passed on him, that he was passed over for Tavares King by Jacksonville, that he could not beat out Brenton Bersin for a roster spot..... 

 

 

I'd say, yeah, he is totally our next great receiver! 

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I knew FA would be bad but when Panther fans are trying to push Hill to a #2 job it's epic bad.

Yall kill me...... so negative, being a number 2 is not a push.... he has talent size and speed, and has been working with the receivers coach all years and will get a full off season to work on everything some more.

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Considering that most other teams passed on him, that he was passed over for Tavares King by Jacksonville, that he could not beat out Brenton Bersin for a roster spot.....

I'd say, yeah, he is totally our next great receiver!

I'm still pissed about losing King. Thought he had a lot of potential here.

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Considering that most other teams passed on him, that he was passed over for Tavares King by Jacksonville, that he could not beat out Brenton Bersin for a roster spot.....

I'd say, yeah, he is totally our next great receiver!

Ok the reason bersin made was because he did more than one thing.

STeams, plus he knew the playbook after 3 years.n

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Considering that most other teams passed on him, that he was passed over for Tavares King by Jacksonville, that he could not beat out Brenton Bersin for a roster spot.....

I'd say, yeah, he is totally our next great receiver!

Much like how I'm going to be a better photographer than you with a 20 year old digital camera. And I think lighting is something amateurs worry about

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I knew FA would be bad but when Panther fans are trying to push Hill to a #2 job it's epic bad.

 

I agree that Hill as a #2 should not be expected, but he has the perfect skillset to be an NFL WR2:

 

23 years old

6'4"

215 lbs.

4.36 40-time

39.5" vertical

33"+ arm length

$600k salary

 

He came into the league raw and I'm pretty confident that most GMs knew he was a project.  After 2 years in a crappy environment, he came here and has been brought along slowly.  He's had guys like Cotch, Avant and Olsen to help him.  I honestly think Ginn can help him as well.  One speedster to another how to use the physics of his talent to his advantage.

 

The Panthers love players that know a system and I definitely see him getting a shot.  I don't think his presence here keeps the organization from looking for a #2 receiver in FA or the draft, but I also don't think the book has been closed on Hill yet.  

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Ok the reason bersin made was because he did more than one thing.

STeams, plus he knew the playbook after 3 years.n

 

 

Not really. Bersin wasn't thrown into punt return duty until well after the start of the season. He never returned punts in camp or preseason. 

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Not really. Bersin wasn't thrown into punt return duty until well after the start of the season. He never returned punts in camp or preseason.

Right but he still played special teams, and plus he had been trying for 3 years for some reason the Panther made him the golden charity case he a hard worker, but nothing special.....

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