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Rivera- Coach of the Year? (And yes, Shula too)

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Rivera has to be in the COTY hunt right? I doubt he cares that much, but he has fired this team up every week, never coming out flat, and executing great gameplans week in and week out. A lot of the credit will go to Cam, and rightly so but we aren't where we are without Rivera. 5 years ago Ron Rivera has a terrible head coach. He cost us 8 games in his first 2 years here. I've never seen seen a head coach grow as much as he has. Who would have thought he would outlast Harbaugh?

Shula is still terrible imo, but he isn't as bad as he was when he became OC. Most of that has to do with Cam being able to change most of the plays, but..well that's it actually.

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He should be the front-runner right now considering how well we've done with the injuries we've had, but I doubt he wins it. And he was not terrible 5 years ago. And Shula isn't terrible either no matter how much people here want to believe it.

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28 minutes ago, CamMoon said:

Rivera has to be in the COTY hunt right? I doubt he cares that much, but he has fired this team up every week, never coming out flat, and executing great gameplans week in and week out. A lot of the credit will go to Cam, and rightly so but we aren't where we are without Rivera. 5 years ago Ron Rivera has a terrible head coach. He cost us 8 games in his first 2 years here. I've never seen seen a head coach grow as much as he has. Who would have thought he would outlast Harbaugh?

Shula is still terrible imo, but he isn't as bad as he was when he became OC. Most of that has to do with Cam being able to change most of the plays, but..well that's it actually.

Umm, Jax, NO games come to mind.....

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2 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I came in here, and started reading what was a positive thread about our coaches, but even in the OP, therebis back handed insults. 

 

Good job.

To be fair to op, I found the insults To be straight forward. I think a lot of people still think Shula sucks.  I didn't think Rivera was terrible early on but I agree with  OP as RR lost games he should have won. 

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Richardson wanted a head coach he could control which meant a coordinator who would be a first time head coach in the NFL and inexperienced. He stuck with Rivera because he liked his attitude and defensive mind. He knew it would take time for him to come into his own and learn his craft. Rivera did the same with Shula giving him another chance as OC. It is paying off for everyone this year.

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2 hours ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

To be fair to op, I found the insults To be straight forward. I think a lot of people still think Shula sucks.  I didn't think Rivera was terrible early on but I agree with  OP as RR lost games he should have won. 

To be fair, if I brought you upon stage in front a large audience to commend you for you work, and your accomplishments, I would NOT bring up your once short comings, and the many mistakes you made as you were learning your job, as that would be insulting.

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17 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

To be fair, if I brought you upon stage in front a large audience to commend you for you work, and your accomplishments, I would NOT bring up your once short comings, and the many mistakes you made as you were learning your job, as that would be insulting.

Ok

I didn't realize this was an awards ceremony I was still viewing it as a message board.  We should just pretend this thread doesn't exist and start another one and slurp undefeated RR. 

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It's the same.concept. 

Why even bother praising a man's work, if you're going to back hand him. 

I was as frustrated with Rivera as anybody. I wanted Rivera as the Panthers HC 2 years before he came here. As with anyone learning a new job, Rivera had a steep learning curve. Doesn't matter how well prepared you think you are, there is NOTHING like on the job training.  I was just as critical of him, because I wanted him here. It got to the point I was beginning to question if he should be here. 

All that is besides the point. Don't create a thread to give kudos, and back hand him in the same post.  

 

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9 hours ago, thomas96 said:

He should be the front-runner right now considering how well we've done with the injuries we've had, but I doubt he wins it. And he was not terrible 5 years ago. And Shula isn't terrible either no matter how much people here want to believe it.

I honestly can't give Shula any credit, whatsoever as he basically is only director of the power running attack (being Stewart/Fozzy and Tolbert,) which really isn't anything spectacular

Cant give him credit for Cam's runs either as that decision is usually on Cam. 

The run-option attack I will give to Shula but we may only run those plays maybe 10-times max per game...so that knocks Shula down a notch as we are one of the most conservative offensive teams in the league and it's really Cam's scrambling ability and field vision that inflates our rushing statistics.

Cam is becoming a field general and I can only give Shula credit that is shared with Coach Ron as Coach Ron allows Cam to audible at his own discretion.

just glad we aren't burning too many timeouts because of mis-communications and that is credit to the team/coaching staff as a whole.

the Oline coach gets the credit for bringing along the Mollies and Proehl gets the credit for WR development. 

Ill give Shula some credit for trying to build around Cam as becoming a pocket QB, but that really is a product of Cam being hurt and gimpy last season and the addition of a prodigious draft pick by the name of KB and Cam's comfortability with Olsen.

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