Next OC of the Carolina Panthers

[electro's horse]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Wilks would have been a promotion (DB coach to DC) when the Chargers declined to let us interview him.

Some teams have a policy of allowing guys to seek advancement. Unknown how the Panthers feel but I'm pretty sure they've denied interviews before.

Negative.

As a matter of fact after 2011 it was a problem, since the Bucs kept CHud hanging around for two weeks.

[SOJA]

please god not Ken Dorsey 

[SOJA]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Shula has stated he won't take a college job. He wants to stay in the NFL. Per one of their beat writers, he's reportedly  communicated specifically to the Miami Hurricanes that he's not interested in that position.

As to assistants, contract status matters. Teams don't have to promote assistants to keep them if they're under contract.  They can simply deny permission (like the Chargers did with Steve Wilks when we wanted him). If they're not locked up, then teams can try to keep them with a better offer if they so desire.

If the Panthers do need to hire a new OC, neither Proehl nor Dorsey has been coaching long enough that I'd want to consider them. If we went in house, Jim Skipper's done the job before. So has Pete Hoener, but only at the college level. Given the choices overall, I'd prefer an outside hire, honestly.

 I could see Ken Whisenhunt being an option (different system but not as big an adjustment as a WCO guy) if he's still unemployed. Also like Bengals QB Coach Ken Zampese (same system) if he's available. Also possible Mike McCoy is free. I know some might suggest Pep Hamilton but I'm really not interested in him.

Plus there'll be other guys available, likely anyone on the Colts and Titans staffs.  Coaches from the Saints, Chargers, Dolphins and Lions staffs are also potential options depending on what happens there.

 

Ok I take it back I'll take Dorsey over Pep Hamilton

[AceBoogie]

I can't see Shula getting another head coaching job

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Negative.

As a matter of fact after 2011 it was a problem, since the Bucs kept CHud hanging around for two weeks.

Not head coaching interviews. Doubt they'd ever decline those.

Pretty sure they've protected position coaches before, though. Might have been when Chud left and I think it was on the defensive side of the ball.

Pre-Rivera I vaguely recall them denying permission on Mike McCoy at least once. 

[Bartin]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wilks would have been a promotion (DB coach to DC) when the Chargers declined to let us interview him.

Some teams have a policy of allowing guys to seek advancement. Unknown how the Panthers feel but I'm pretty sure they've denied interviews before.

I believe Wilks had the title of assistant head coach in addition to DB coach which was why the Chargers were able to deny permission.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2012/01/charlotte-native-steve-wilks-to-coach-panthers-dbs.html

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, Bartin said:

I believe Wilks had the title of assistant head coach in addition to DB coach which was why the Chargers were able to deny permission.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2012/01/charlotte-native-steve-wilks-to-coach-panthers-dbs.html

Wouldn't have mattered. The only type of interview a team can't block is a head coaching job.

The Packers, for example, apparently have a habit of it.

Packers often deny assistants permission to interview with other teams

Here's an article specifically addressing the question:

What are the rules for NFL teams granting permission to interview assistants?

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The rule is pretty simple. A team can’t block an assistant coach, including a coordinator, from interviewing for and accepting a job as a head coach. All other moves, including from assistant coach to coordinator, can be blocked.

It’s not unusual for a team to let a position coach interview for a coordinator position and to let that coach walk if he gets the offer. Organizations that get a reputation for blocking their coaches from advancing their careers could well find themselves having difficulty in hiring good assistants. So they usually will go along.

Again though, this requires they be under contract. Coaching contracts generally don't get publicized so usually no one knows their status.

[Bartin]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wouldn't have mattered. The only type of interview a team can't block is a head coaching job.

The Packers, for example, apparently have a habit of it.

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-often-deny-assistants-permission-to-interview-with-other-teams-ks87jo8-185390861.html

Here's an article specifically addressing the question:

What are the rules for NFL teams granting permission to interview assistants?

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Bartin said:

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

It's a confusing thing to follow sometimes.

Wilks contact expired the following year. That's how we got him.

[Bartin]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's a confusing thing to follow sometimes.

Wilks contact expired the following year. That's how we got him.

Yeah, I also don't think Ron or Dave are the type of guys to block someone's chance at advancement in their careers since they are both guys who had to grind and really wait for their chance to be the man in charge. You never know obviously, but I think they'd be less likely to deny an interview for upward movement based on their personal experience.

[Mr. Scot]

Speaking of the Packers, people used to be hot and heavy for Tom Clements, but the downturn in this year's Packer team has coincided with Mike McCarthy handing off the play calling duties to Clements.

Fair or not, his reputation has been damaged.

[Icege]

Promote the Dark Lord

[juliosantos]

Sean payton ....... shula becomes the head coach of the 49ers , aints get rid of payton and he wants revenge so he  comes our oc. Jk shula will here next season

[SinaloaPaisa]

Neither,

I want a proven OC. Preferably a fired HC who produced numerous top 10 O's when he was an OC.