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Question about defending the 00 and 01 personnel?

philit99

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Great win, I couldn't be happier with the outcome. I do want to know why we struggled mightily with the 00 or the 01 personnel? Sean Payton just gave the league the tape on hurting our defense. I think we need to examine our zone coverage and think about using dime more in those personnel groupings. What say you? Anyone else notice how Luke was taken out of the game today?

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4 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

OK well now I have to do some research into what the fug 00 and 01 means....are you speaking in binary?

 

6 minutes ago, philit99 said:

Sorry dude 4 and 5 wide receiver sets.

Hope this didn't come across as douchish; using quotes was just faster.

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They did very much the same thing they did the first time (short dink and dunk passes), plus, with Tillman out, they went heavily after Finnegan and Jones. Even with that, we still had a pick and were able to limit their performance for most of the game. Once Tillman is back, we won't have to use Jones and that exploit will go away.

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3 minutes ago, philit99 said:

Sorry dude 4 and 5 wide receiver sets.

Ah, alright man, I gotcha.

 

Regardless, I think today was just a "Product of the Environment" kind of situation. A few weeks ago, I would have said that our biggest weakness was giving up big runs. Today was just a classic case of Brees in the Dome, in an emotional game. 

 

Honestly, if there is a "Blueprint" to beating the Panthers, it certainly has nothing to do with an offense beating our defense. The "Blueprint" would have to be the defense shutting down Cam in clutch situations. And that's a lot easier said than done.

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4 minutes ago, stankowalski said:

Yeah I'd have to agree with TN05...plus it seemed like we played zone a little bit more today than we usually do, maybe that was my imagination though.  

We absolutely played zone almost the entire second half. I expect we will see quite a few 00 and 01 personnel groups from here on out. I happy a Fug we won, however Arizona's defense is not as forgiving as the Saints. I'm sure Ron and company will figure it out, but the zone coverage was like Swiss cheese today. 

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We seem to play zone when we're not certain about our personnel vs their personnel and we did have Finnegan out there who was just signed & probably didn't know the entire playbook well enough yet. Also, I think we were trying to counter that "submarine" move where Cooks would run behind the o-line to the other side of the field after the ball was snapped. Playing zone, however, doesn't allow much in terms of disrupting the routes and Brees' game is all about timing. What failed was the lack of pressure on Brees from our d-line which we count on to disrupt his timing.

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It's simple. Not enough pressure and Colin Jones being useless in coverage.

As has been the case since Tillman went down, teams are almost solely attacking Jones. They know he's the kink in our secondary right now. And we know it. That's why we got beat over the top today. I bet if you look at the blown coverages on deep passes in this game, you'll see that they occurred on the side of the field that Jones occupied the nickel. Why? Because the safety behind him is trying to cover 2-3 guys at once to cover for him.

Once we get Tillman back, we'll be fine. If we get him back....

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