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SI: An Oral History of the 2011 draft

Cary Kollins

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hehehe oral

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Good piece on the historically great 2011 draft, and just how crazy things got behind the scenes.

 

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Cecil Newton: I sat with Coach Rivera; I met with Jerry Richardson privately. I didn’t know what he would think of me, and he didn’t know what I would think of him. It was a 2 1/2-hour session. It took some ice-breaking, but we warmed up.

Hurney: Ron and I met with Cam for four hours in a hotel outside Auburn. The more research we did, as we talked to everybody, they all said the same thing: Cam was dedicated, had a great work ethic. A lot of the things written about him we didn’t find to be true. From that process, it just felt like he was our guy.

Schefter: I hoped Marty was right. His job depended on it.

 

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/26/2011-nfl-draft-oral-history-cam-newton-von-miller

 

 

 

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Atlanta on the Julio Jones trade:

 

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Dimitroff: Julio was the full package, and that justified our compensation package. It was not five picks, though. We swapped first-round picks; then it was a 2 and a 4 and [in 2012] a 1 and a 4. That’s how we look at it.

Snead: You think about what the reaction will be when you make a trade like that. Then you realize, This is the NFL; everything you do is going to be covered and scrutinized and debated.

Dimitroff: You can’t sit on your hands. If you really believe in something, you have to step up and go for it. And when we actually pulled the trigger, it was a euphoric time.

 

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2011 was probably the best first round ever.   Other than all the other QB trash, we got the GOAT at #1, then Von Miller, JJ Watt, Marcel Dareus, two great WRs in AJ Green and Julio, Patrick Peterson, Tyron Smith, Robert Quinn, Muhammed Wilkerson.  All very possible future HOFers if their careers continue as they've gone so far.

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Here's an interesting quote:

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Mike Maccagnan (Texans director of college scouting): When quarterbacks start going off the board, they push other players down to you. Here it was Locker and Gabbert who helped us get [Wisconsin defensive end] J.J. Watt [at No. 11].

 

 

Fingers crossed for a QB run.

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Schefter: Marty Hurney stood in the face of the critics and did what he thought was right, and he turned out to be right. . . . Then he lost his job anyway [after Carolina started 1–5 in 2012]. . . . At No. 2, Miller was ticketed for Denver all along. They needed pass-rush help. And Von had no issues.

"Von had no issues."

Heh.

Which of Cam and Von has been suspended by the league again?

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