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We couldn't afford Jonathan Stewart

frash.exe

By frash.exe,
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Who cares about those calls? I would have taken Maroney over Williams if given the chance.

Hurney has made mistakes. We would have made mistakes much worse. Let's not forget Beason, Marshall, DWill, Kalil, Davis and many others elicited little more from us than a "WTF?!". Jarrett on the other hand was near universally greeted with a bunch of "finally, we're going to draft some real players!". I include myself foremost on all those comments.

Give Brown and Goodson a chance before you throw your hands up. Heck, give this whole team a chance. Moving forward might require a change, sure. I'd advise betting on that so early.

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I was high on Goodson and still am.

Munnerlyn still can show promise.

Depth on the D line is where I really thought the focus would be when Ruck left.

What perplexes me is how many on the Huddle can point out the lack of usuage the #3 WR gets but at the same time the Panthers draft one in the 2nd rd.

Ya can't always hit home runs, but more singles and doubles would be nice. It happens.

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Weren't you also posting for Godfrey on Missed Encounters on craigslist?

I could be wrong.

Yep. I thought he was a great 3rd round pick.

I'm not convinced yet that was the wrong that judgement, but it very well might have been.

My point is not wrong or right. My point is the uselessness of these threads, esp coming for someone who counts us not taking Kyle Boller as a mistake like the OP.

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None. You're the one who says that we should go for first round QB's, so we should have gone for Boller.

You have never ever stuck your neck out for a 1st round QB before the draft only cherry picked after the fact; therefore, it's only fair that I get to cherry pick your first round QB (the majority of which we had a shot at were busts btw). Well, you did ballyhoo Nate Davis and we know he wasn't capable of an early pick.

Continue with your daily whiney rant. It's what you do.

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this thread is funny. if my post doesn't flow with the thread, it's because i got tired of reading a bunch of fluff.

i predicted carolina would pick an RB with their first pick in 2008. why? because there was ZERO depth at the position. outside of williams, who was going to carry the rock should he go down?

i also said that people shouldn't be surprised if carolina picked up another RB in 2009.

drafting stewart had nothing to do with not having faith in williams's abilities. it had everything to do with not wanting to repeat 2005, and wanting to duplicate 2003.

stewart = davis

williams = foster

...only, stewart and williams are much better.

and for those who think that carolina should have waited until the later rounds to pick up an RB...wait and see.

stewart will be/is better than any back from his draft class.

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None. You're the one who says that we should go for first round QB's, so we should have gone for Boller.

You have never ever stuck your neck out for a 1st round QB before the draft only cherry picked after the fact; therefore, it's only fair that I get to cherry pick your first round QB (the majority of which we had a shot at were bust btw). Well, unless you count Nate Davis and we know he wasn't capable of an early pick.

Continue with your daily whiney rant. It's what you do.

bullshit

I've said every year that I've been here that we should draft a QB to groom, and it could be a 1st rounder or later. As for the Boller thing it sounds like you are trying to set up a strawman. What you think is "cherry picking" is me trying to disprove this common misconception that first round QBs are automatic busts, which is the sentiment people like to express.

What, so you think all our defensive draft picks were better spent where they were? Keep plugging in the individual performances as justification the defensive players we picked in our drafts were worth all the investment, while conveniently ignoring the fact that even though we spent more money and time on the defense than a white collar office worker in a strip club, the defense has sucked since 2006 and, 2 games into the regular season is ranked 15th in total yards and 30th in total points allowed.

Keep trying to plug in the hindsight argument, just know that which is pretty much your atom bomb is irrelevant considering I wasn't showering the FO with praise after the 2008 draft.

"whine" "whine" "whine" that's all you sycophants throw out when you've got nothing else to say. Please, keep your 2003 NFC Champions shirt on and your standards low.

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None. You're the one who says that we should go for first round QB's, so we should have gone for Boller.

You have never ever stuck your neck out for a 1st round QB before the draft only cherry picked after the fact; therefore, it's only fair that I get to cherry pick your first round QB (the majority of which we had a shot at were busts btw). Well, you did ballyhoo Nate Davis and we know he wasn't capable of an early pick.

Continue with your daily whiney rant. It's what you do.

pwnage.

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The move made plenty of sense at the time. D-Will had not yet proven that he could be a top starting RB in the NFL, so they needed to get a strong RB in the draft. Also, Stewart is just a better RB than Forte. A few years down the road when we can trade Stewart for a 1st and 3rd round pick you won't be wishing we had Forte.

Stewart may or may not be better than Forte (arguable) but I agree with the idea.

Williams is what he is at least in part because of Stewart, and rather than go the usual route of "one big back, one fast back" like most teams do, the team went for two guys that were in the "hybrid mold", thus not allowing opposing defenses to just pick the right personnel for the matchup.

There are plenty of moves this team has made that I either have disagreed or do disagree with. The moves to get Otah and Stewart last year aren't among them.

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76% of the 1st round QB's we had a shot at in the Fox era were busts and are either backups or out of the league.

Seventy six. Percent.

100 % of the players of the players taken in the first round in the Fox era are starters or significant subs (Williams and Stewart split carries about 60-40) and are still on the team and would be starters on the overwhelming majority of NFL teams.

One hundred. Percent.

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