Vote For Mike McCoy 2016 (or 17) For OC!

[Bartin]

30 minutes ago, Delhommey said:

- Has revived faltering QB's careers multiple times (see: Orton, Kyle; Manning, Peyton)

lol seriously? He's Peyton f'n Manning. His career wasn't faltering. He just missed a year for neck surgery.

[Mr. Scot]

30 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I don't think many understand the difference, and what it takes to run this from the QB standpoint.

We need Cam to stay as far from a West Coast offense as possible.

West Coast Offenses need mobile quarterbacks because they don't keep runningbacks in to block very much.

It often means that you're quarterback gets hit a fair amount.

That, plus Cam's short passing isn't his strong suit.

Basically, Cam in a WCO is just not a good idea.

[Still Brooklyn]

It'd be a step down for him. He'd have zero interest. And I wouldn't want him anyway. Rivers gives him all he has. Gordon is a solid runner. Injuries hamper the team. But the Bolts just suck.

[Bartin]

1 minute ago, Still Brooklyn said:

It'd be a step down for him.

A step down from being unemployed? He's about to be fired.

[electro's horse]

Keep in mind Jeff Davidson ran the running game at the time. 

Can someone head down to the local racetrack and see if he can get some time off?

[PrimeTimeHeel]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

West Coast Offenses need mobile quarterbacks because they don't keep runningbacks in to block very much.

It often means that you're quarterback gets hit a fair amount.

That, plus Cam's short passing isn't his strong suit.

Basically, Cam in a WCO is just not a good idea.

 

If a QB can not complete short passes he doesn't need to be in the NFL. 

If a team is blitzing heavy or your OL just sucks ass you must be able to throw short and quick. 

This whole Cam can't be a WC QB is foolishness. 

At most he just needs some practice getting use to making those throws. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, PrimeTimeHeel said:

If a QB can not complete short passes he doesn't need to be in the NFL. 

If a team is blitzing heavy or your OL just sucks ass you must be able to throw short and quick. 

This whole Cam can't be a WC QB is foolishness. 

At most he just needs some practice getting use to making those throws. 

There aren't that many quarterbacks in the NFL who are great at every level.

The more common type of quarterback is the kind that's very good at short to medium range passes but not quite as good at the longball. A less common group are the ones that are good with deep passes but not quite as good at the short game.

Cam is a longball quarterback.

Now you can win with that type of quarterback in a big play, Cornell type offense, but you don't really want to run a WCO with them.

[LxDunn]

Anyone but Shitla 

[PrimeTimeHeel]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There aren't that many quarterbacks in the NFL who are great at every level.

The more common type of quarterback is the kind that's very good at short to medium range passes but not quite as good at the longball. A less common group are the ones that are good with deep passes but not quite as good at the short game.

Cam is a longball quarterback.

Now you can win with that type of quarterback in a big play, Cornell type offense, but you don't really want to run a WCO with them.

 

Not buying this. 

A QB has to be able to make short throws. 

Not saying he will be 80+% completion rate, but he needs to be competent because there will be times he needs to use a quick WC style attack. 

[Still Brooklyn]

23 minutes ago, Bartin said:

A step down from being unemployed? He's about to be fired.

Yes.

He might be able to get another head coaching gig in the NFL or college. Going back to an OC would be a step down in the long run.

[truthjuice]

1 hour ago, Delhommey said:

- Barring a miracle, will be available very soon

- Experience In The Panthers' System

- Experience in Zone Read System

- Shows Willingness to Adapt System to QB (see: The Golden Calf of Bristol, Tim)

- Shows Willingness to Change Strategies

- Has revived faltering QB's careers multiple times (see: Orton, Kyle; Manning, Peyton)

- Was able to produce offense on a John Fox team 

- Was able to produce offense with The Golden Calf of Bristol

- Is not Mike Shula

LOL 

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

Not buying this. 

A QB has to be able to make short throws. 

Not saying he will be 80+% completion rate, but he needs to be competent because there will be times he needs to use a quick WC style attack. 

Being able to "make" them, and completing them in a way that makes a WCO tick are completely different things.

WCO needs crazy anticipation, touch, feel, accuracy, and very quick decision making.  Those aren't Cams strong suits, he is capable of all of that, and at a pretty high level, but he is better suited in a Coryell offense.

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, PrimeTimeHeel said:

Not buying this. 

A QB has to be able to make short throws. 

Not saying he will be 80+% completion rate, but he needs to be competent because there will be times he needs to use a quick WC style attack. 

He can make short throws, but it isn't his strength.

Edit: Fuzz explained it better than me.

What honestly concerns me more is that a WCO can expose your QB to a lot of hits.

Cam's been hit too much already.

[PrimeTimeHeel]

When I say make them, I mean enough to be able to run a WCO effectively enough to move the chains. 

If what you say is the case, then all any team would need to do to shut Cam down is blitz heavy forcing him to get the ball out in 3 step drops. 

To hear you tell it, he wouldnt be able to do that with consistency.